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Sunray DX-1
- Thread starter BHNugget
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Yes!
Jerry
Jerry
Larry (IL)
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The DX-1 seems a little weaker in the discrimination mode compared to the DFX, but once the trigger is pulled for all metal, (pinpoint), it seems to go just as deep. I do have my all metal turned up a little from the stock setting on the Hi-Pro program.
Until Sunray states its compatible it IMO is still an open issue. I have E-Mailed them and posted questions on their specific forum but to date have not gotten a specific answer to the question. Yes, I know it works on the V3 but not with TX Boost on and will also overload at times just like non-Vnulled older Whites coils.
When Sunray completes their testing and specifically states the DX-1 is compatible and OK to use with my V3 then I will order one for it. Until then I will use other separate handheld pinpointers.
When Sunray completes their testing and specifically states the DX-1 is compatible and OK to use with my V3 then I will order one for it. Until then I will use other separate handheld pinpointers.
Larry (IL)
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If you are able to use TX Boost, that is a good idea. I can't do that in my ground though.
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>>TX Boost<<
Would you need to use "TX Boost" with a pinpointer?
Jerry
Would you need to use "TX Boost" with a pinpointer?
Jerry
The idea is I run TX Boost on "a lot" (fact is most of the time) and would not like to go in on my live control and turn it off every time I need to pinpoint to avoid overloading. My soil allows me to run higher than preset RX gains and TX Boost on most of the time.
Those who can't or don't use TX Boost I guess this would be a non-issue for them but I still will not use a DX-1 till Sunray states it is OK to do so. Until then the real answer to whether the DX-1 is compatible with the V3 is "we haven't been told as yet from the manufacturer". I ran one on my DFX and feel it is the best pinpointer out there but Sunray needs to determine if the DX-1 is what they want to sell for V3's or a new V-nulled unit instead. Just my take on this topic. The V has been out for 3 months now and Sunray has had sufficient time to make a determination about compatibility IMO. My guess is silence means a new model is in the works for it but that is just an opinion.
Those who can't or don't use TX Boost I guess this would be a non-issue for them but I still will not use a DX-1 till Sunray states it is OK to do so. Until then the real answer to whether the DX-1 is compatible with the V3 is "we haven't been told as yet from the manufacturer". I ran one on my DFX and feel it is the best pinpointer out there but Sunray needs to determine if the DX-1 is what they want to sell for V3's or a new V-nulled unit instead. Just my take on this topic. The V has been out for 3 months now and Sunray has had sufficient time to make a determination about compatibility IMO. My guess is silence means a new model is in the works for it but that is just an opinion.
DavefromCt
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I finally bought a sunray dx-1 pinpointer after hearing a lot of good recommendations but will be selling it soon....just didn't like it at all, compared with my vibraprobe which in my opinion is the best pinpointer by far. It comes with a holster, turns on quickly by holding it upward (faster than switching the dx box and removing the probe from the bracket) and has a thinner shaft which I like for getting into the hole or probing horizontally under the sod...it could even be thinner and I'd like it even better. It's also completely waterproof. I don't like the sloppy dx wire hanging out on the detector and the extra weight and bulkiness. The instructions also warn against getting the box or connectors wet. Without it mounted, I can now walk into the water up to the detector's box practically, without worry. I took the sunray out all day recently and it just didn't help much to pinpoint my target...it's so fat! I like the vibraprobe that will pick up at a shorter distance, say an inch, because then you know where your target is for sure...with the sunray if the target was 3" away I'd be digging all over the place looking for it and made more of a messy hole than I would normally by far. One last thing I didn't like, is that several times I forgot to manually switch the dx box back to the detector's coil and was walking around with the sunray still active, not my coil and not realizing it. Just too much trouble for me....my probe is just about perfect from my viewpoint...
captainron
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Not many have mentioned preferring a hand-held, but, the "Different strokes for different folks" does apply. I wouldn't detect without the DX-1. I find exactly the opposite with it's depth. I can usually locate the target center by using the probe at the area I pinpointed with the coil, on top of the dirt, which, allows you to dig a much smaller hole (since you now know where it is for sure). If target is too deep to get a signal from the probe on top, then I would make a bit larger flap, then probe the hole. You can zero in on the direction of the target within the hole by listening for the highest pitch. After a while you will be able to zero in on your target quite fast, with the biggest benefit of being able to dig without scratching your find. By having to wait until you are within an inch or so to get a signal from a handheld, your odds of already scratching a potential nice find can be quite high.
I'm sure you will have no problem selling it, but, I would try and put in some more time with it before truly deciding to dump the probe. The thickness shouldn't matter as you are just using it as a "pointer" to the target under the dirt. Yes, the cable does hang out, but, I haven't found it bothersome, except when you might be in tight woods or brush.
All just my opinion, but, just wanted you to see what benefits you might be missing. If you have a buddy with good experience with one, maybe, he could show you how to get the most out of it. Good luck, Dave
I'm sure you will have no problem selling it, but, I would try and put in some more time with it before truly deciding to dump the probe. The thickness shouldn't matter as you are just using it as a "pointer" to the target under the dirt. Yes, the cable does hang out, but, I haven't found it bothersome, except when you might be in tight woods or brush.
All just my opinion, but, just wanted you to see what benefits you might be missing. If you have a buddy with good experience with one, maybe, he could show you how to get the most out of it. Good luck, Dave
DavefromCt
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Thanks for your input but I've tried everything I could with it for 8 hours and I just don't find it that accurate especially for targets not flat...even with vco on. Try this...put a ring on edge and try to detect it with the dx-1...yes it does pick it up but the loudest or highest pitch comes at about a full inch either side of head on!....When I do the same thing with my probe it vibrates dead on center. I know several folks who use the same one as me and also think that you can't get more simple quick and basic than that design. It's just a matter of preference but my v3 feels so sleek and natural now that I've removed the hardware of the dx. I often go from field to woods etc.and I don't want to be always watching for the loop of wire to get caught or to remember in which position the switch is..... for me it's no contest. -Dave
captainron
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I think this has been some good posting. You're giving an honest evaluation, used it, done that and can see how some prefer to use a hand held, so, thanks for the insight, Dave. 
No doubt someone from this forum would take it off your hands. Good luck and HH
No doubt someone from this forum would take it off your hands. Good luck and HH
DavefromCt
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Ok, thanks CaptainRon...I really do like hearing different points of view on different equipment, settings etc. I think it helps us decide as individuals what seems to work best for us! -Dave
I bought my V the first week they became available. When I went to my local dealer, I told him I would only buy it if a DX-1 worked on it.
It did, and I bought another DX-1 for my new V.
I could care less what White's and SunRay say about the compatability issues...it works great on the V, albeit not in Tx Boost.
It did, and I bought another DX-1 for my new V.
I could care less what White's and SunRay say about the compatability issues...it works great on the V, albeit not in Tx Boost.
It does work with the V3, but isn't 100% compatible. I tried it and sold my DX-1 the next day. Having to turn of TX Boost is annoying. I knew this would be an issue, but still wanted the advantages of the DX-1 (VCO, depth, use thru headphones). However, I found that I couldn't even detect in coil mode with TX Boost. Evidently, the DX-1 isn't fully switched out of the circuit when in coil mode. I also found that RX Probe readings were greatly reduced with the DX-1 (15 vs 4-10). I tried "before and after" tests several times to make sure. This probably means to be the DX-1 isn't "nulled" as well as the 10DD. That said, my intent is NOT to bash the Sunray: it's a fine product, well made and does what it's designed to do very well. However, it needs some tweaking to be fully compatible with the V3 IMHO. To my knowledge, Sunray has yet to bless the DX-1 for V3 usage.
To those who are using it, it's only right for me to mention that you should try disconnecting it and then trying to run TX Boost as well as comparing RX Probe readings. To be completely fair to Sunray I made no attempt to contact them for support. I also found I prefer a handheld pinpointer - I ordered the Garrett. I realize I'm giving up depth, but what I really want is a "cold, warm, hot" indication of how close I am. The DetectorPro is very nice, but it's just too large and looks too much like a "piece."
John
To those who are using it, it's only right for me to mention that you should try disconnecting it and then trying to run TX Boost as well as comparing RX Probe readings. To be completely fair to Sunray I made no attempt to contact them for support. I also found I prefer a handheld pinpointer - I ordered the Garrett. I realize I'm giving up depth, but what I really want is a "cold, warm, hot" indication of how close I am. The DetectorPro is very nice, but it's just too large and looks too much like a "piece."
John