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Sunday (Long and winding post warning.)

cwilk

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Every time I tell myself I will only hunt one day over the weekend I usually end up hunting both. Yesterday was cool, last night temps got way down into the teens and it wasn't much warmer this morning. Decided a short trip to the bark chips was in order. Tons of cool loot. One awful incident. Of note:

1. .22 bullet
2. A jack
3. Jeweled Rhino Whatsit
4. Tons of buttons and zips
5. 2 Wheats. 1957D 1958 I have been hoping for wheats at all my old coin sites and find 2 within 10 minutes of each other at a 2 yr old grade school.
6. 90 coins for $7.13. I was wanting to get 100 coins but I was cut short. See story below if interested.
7. 14K gold 1.58 Gram Piece of a pendant or chain. Marked 14KT and Italy.

[size=x-large]WooooooooHooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!![/size]

That was for the gold and that's how it's done.

Now for the story. Three young men decided they were going to shake me down or maybe just rob me. They were about 14-16 and not the same race as I am. They first asked for money and then demanded money. I asked them as nicely as I could to leave and displayed my digging tool which looks a lot like a big hunting knife. No effect at all. I took out my phone, dialed 911 and let them know I needed some help. No effect. I then told the operator I was carrying a concealed weapon and I let them know how they could identify me. That was a lie. They stopped following me. The operator told me to stay on the phone and when the teens began to move off I told her I did not have a gun. A few minutes later the cops pulled up and were of course more worried about my weapon than these misunderstood teens who were still in sight but pretty far away by now. When they figured out that I didn't have a gun, legal or otherwise, they went and got the kids who said they were just playing around. One of these "boys" was about 6' 3" 240. The cops ran the kids off and we chatted for a bit. I let them know I was pretty disappointed that they were allowed to leave and the cops said they hadn't committed a crime. Demanding money isn't a crime. Sheesh. I packed up and drove home. This is Sunday morning, small town, at an elementary school, at noon. I guess I will be getting a CCW permit.

Here's what I was thinking about before my little incident. I had just found a coin spill with 6 coins that totaled 55 cents. I came up with 4 ways to make this happen (one uses an obsolete coin.) I was really lost in thought and they were right up on me before I knew it. Jerks.

Chris
 
Yikes. That makes me nervous to go out on my own.

Was there NOBODY else around except you and those thugs?

Lucky for me, most of the tot lots and parks around here are surrounded by houses. Also as a singer I can scream VERY loud.

Yikes.
 
You did the right thing. The problem is these kids can be packing heat with no permit or worry. You and me have to defend ourselves with intelligence and a Lesche. The worst thing is these teens probably could push the issue that you threatened them with a knife! Punching a so called teen that's under 18 years old would land you in jail. I believe I will pursue the permit to carry a weapon. But you did dig some nice finds anyway!
 
Lainy,
I have nothing against a woman detecting. In fact there is nothing better than a woman getting their fingers dirty and swinging a detector! It's like a woman with a tool belt! But as a woman you have to especially careful. I know you can scream. Even so high that only the dogs can hear! But it's best to look over your shoulder all the time. Pepper spray would not be a bad thing to carry either. 99% of the time the people are friendly or just keep their distance. Keep singing and swinging Lainy!
 
[size=medium]What a disturbing story. Praise God for your quick thinking, it was effective! What troubles me is that it seems apparent the police just gave these "kids" the greenlight to attempt another robbery. The next attempt may be successful or worse, especially if the victim doesn't react as wisely as you did. The other side of the coin is that if they did get arrested they would probably be watching for you when they got out. Either way not a good situation! Be careful Chris, I would suggest to avoid that area for a while or maybe if you could take a friend. If that happened where I live there is no doubt an arrest would of been made as attempted robbery is a serious crime, and you had the best witness, the dispatcher who was on the phone while "in progress"! [/size]
 
I live in a different county about 12 miles away. The sherrif for the county I live in is a friend and lives two houses away from me. I am going to talk to him about this incident. He has told me I should be carrying a gun when I go to the nearest "big" city to hunt. I find all kinds of drug stuff and ammo in those parks. I like to go real early in the morning before the criminal element is awake.

The cops did take their names, who knows what names they gave, and my contact information as well. If you saw this school, you would be shocked. It is brand new. 4 huge bark chip areas. Great shape. Clean. No litter. Bird feeders all over the place. Immaculate grounds.

Chris
 
Yeah it's a shame a guy has to pack just to go detecting but it ain't safe out there anymore. To many goons looking for trouble. I usually have a hunting knife on my belt.

Bill
 
Yeah I would have told the cops I was willing to fill out a warrant for their arrest then they would have to arrest them. Most cops are lazy and don't want to do anymore than they have to unless it's a major bust. They don't want to mess with all the paper work involved.

Bill
 
Be careful. A CCW isn't a license to shoot. You should still do as you did, packing or not. Im glad you got out of that scrape, though, with all your parts intact. You're a smart cookie.
 
Check with the local officials where you live, because here in Tennessee, even with a "permit" all parks and school property is OFF LIMITS. If you get caught in one of these areas carrying a firearm, you WILL go directly to jail. The police don't care if you just saved a bus load of Nun's with it, you are still going to jail, their philosophy, one more gun off the streets.... I dont do parks or schools, and yes, I have a permit...
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Joe
 
Yeah I thought about that. The CCW statement was my reaction when I was still very angry. I will probably never get one.

When I was a teen I used to bring a shotgun to school and bring it on the bus to a friends house to hunt squirrel. Weren't supposed to bring ammo but we frequently did. That was only 25 years ago. I wouldn't be surprised if carrying my digging tool on school property doesn't violate some law these days.

If you have been reading this forum since I joined I made a post last Fall about an incident in the same town as todays. This large teen was shouting at me and beating his chest. It was like he was saying come over here and I'm gonna mess you up. I gave him a wide birth but had to move pretty close to him and who I thought was his girlfriend to get back to my truck. He was kind of hitting on her and I asked if she needed help. Turns out he had some mental disorder and the girl was his caretaker.

I am ashamed to say that this morning I was so unconcerned about detecting at this school that I left my truck unlocked with the keys on the front seat. Had these "boys" wanted, they could have had my Ace 250 (always behind my seat), my truck (filled up this morning), a small bag of groceries including an 18 pack of Coors Light. I was very lucky and I'll be a lot smarter in the future. Also one of the reasons I'm not fond of headphones.

Chris

There was a story a while back on the beach/water forum about a guy in Fla who was mugged just after sunset returning to his vehicle. They got his rig, wallet, and loot.
 
Man, that just makes me mad!!!!! You did the right thing, call the cops. If the punks touch you, by all means crack some skulls.


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We spend too much time and money on our hobby to have our gear and piece of mind taken away from us!!!!
 
On a lighter note. I'm glad they didn't get your 250 and Coors! :thumbup:
I asked a police officer about carrying a weapon. He asked me if I had a shotgun. I said yes. He said just throw it in the seat with the clip out of it in plain sight. He told me there is nothing a cop can do as long as it's not loaded or hidden. The key is making it to your car before the thugs do!
 
I've thought about getting one as there are some unsavory characters hanging out at some of the parks and schoole here. WE have a hoard of illegals here, a lot of them gang members and belonging to the dreaded MS-13 gang. I have several guns in the house, including one right here in my desk drawer. They just recently revised the law here so if anyone breaks into your home or enters uninvited you are allowed to shoot them. If one were allowed to protect their entire property with lethal force there would be a lot less crime. It used to be that way in this country until the do-gooder pansies took over and gave the criminals more rights than the law abiding citizen.

It's like the cops you called. They should have arrested the punks who attempted to rip you off instead of letting them go. Crime prevention must be pretty lax in that town. Maybe they have to attack you or kill you before the fuzz would get off their arse and do anything.

Bill
 
It is easy to act brave when it is not happening to you.
Theses demo-ed houses I'm MD'ing have a lot of no goods looking for metal. I try to dress as bad as I can on purpose. When I am going to a city park I try not to scare people so I dress friendlier. I also carry no money or valuables on me.
You might say I take risks, because I MD a lot of bad neighborhoods. More so when I lived in Fl. I grew up in neighborhoods like that.


Sort of a funny. I was walking with my daughter in a park in Orlando last month and was really stress out. It was 10 pm. and a guy jump up from some bushes and was heading for us. I don't know what he wanted, but I started screaming come on, make my day. I need to relieve some stress. He took off kind of quick. Never did say what he wanted. My daughter thought it was funny.
 
[quote khouse]John,
That "make my day" thing you said scared me on this side of my computer! Stop it! :cry:[/quote]

I was soo stressed, I wanted to hit something so bad. Why do you think we were walking in a park at 10 pm?
 
[quote khouse]Lainy,
Keep singing and swinging Lainy![/quote]

Oh, I will! I am planning to get some pepper spray, even for just going on walks with my babies (I have two under 1 years old) in case an crazy doggies approach us.

I will just have to MD when people are around so they can say "Whatcha looking for?" and "Did you find it, har har" or "Did you lose something" or "Find anything good" or "Find the big treasure yet" or "What are you doing" or "Want to come find something for me" or "Can I see what you found" or "Did you find the pirate's loot" or any NUMBER of annoying things. And then there is the group of little kids following me around like I'm the Pied Piper or something, watching me...staring at me...while I dig and they say "Did you find it" and "where is it" and "I think you beez wrong" and "Can I have it when you find it" and "Is that real" and "Whatcha going to do with that".

UGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH. :rant: Maybe I will just pepper spray anyone who comes near me. All the time. Anywhere. Even the black flies....

I better go to sleep now.
 
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