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Stolen Excal 1000 Recovery Help

M

MHirschmann

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Hi Everyone,

Although this is my first post, i have been detecting for about a year now and have been following this site closely the entire time for all your information. I have not posted due to wanting to learn before sharing my experience. I find myself asking for your help, however, with my first post. This weekend (my birthday) i was robbed and one of the many items stolen was my Excal 1000. I was robbed in West Palm Beach, Florida and would appreciate any of you out there giving me any information if you happen to see my Excal on the beach. Insurance wont cover theft of it so im on my own to find it. Mine had a lot of parts on it that would make it easily identifiable, including an aftermarket black shaft that has a cut in the center with a piece of wood inside so that i can break it down to travel. i also have a knob guard on it that is silver. the unit looks brand new and i would recognize it from a great distance. I would very very much appreciate if you all down there could keep you eyes open for my machine as im sure it will be up for sale sometime soon or it will be seen on a local beach soon. I will keep my eyes open but i will be offering a reward to anyone who either locates the machine or anyone that is able/willing to call the local police in case this machine is seen somewhere. I appreciate any/all your help and i hope to be able to recover my favorite toy sometime soon. Thank you all. Marc
 
Notify all the local pawn shops about your loss. You can bet that the scum who stole it will probably go there to sell it.

With the economy the way it is, this will be happening more and more. Pawn shops are doing big business right now and that is a sign that the economy is in trouble.
 
Thank you guys so much for your help. The police told me not to notify pawn shops because they have a database of all items at pawn shops but i will call as many as i can anyway since you recommended it. I appreciate all you help with my "awesome birthday situation." I wish you all the best of luck with your finds and i will keep you posted about what happens. Until then, keep yourselves and your possessions safe from those sad few that walk amongst us.Marc
 
Sorry about the loss. Did you have the serial number wrote down so you can pass that on to anyone who may see a scally for sale?
 
Should you notify the pawn shops? I'd be worried that the store owner would just say he's not interested in it if he knows it's stolen, rather than get involved with trying to take an item from somebody on the spot. So long as the police have a database that they can review (and not the reverse for the store owner) then I'd figure he's more likely to buy the item and then the police would see it in the database. I really don't know how that works so if somebody can explain let me know. Just a thought.

Also, I'd do a search on Craig's list. More than likely anybody who has those kinds of morals is also going to be cheap about trying to sell it. Since Craig's List is free I'd expect you might very well find somebody trying to get rid of it on there. Don't limit your search to one city on their, either. Do them all. If you do come across somebody selling it I'd call them right away and say you'll buy it for the asking price. If they say they've already got a buyer offer them $100 more to hold it for you. Once done call up the police and have them follow you over to the place. Give the cop your description of it before you get there so there is no doubt it's yours.

Keep us all informed. That really stinks...
 
n/t
 
Check with your local police dept ,, they should have a special unit that just works the pawn shops ,, Give them your info ,,, There a big help .. you will have to do some investigating yourself ,,I had a bunch of gold stolen from me and i recovered all but one piece . it was all pawned . person who pawned it was arrested ,,, Good luck
 
Thank you all for your help. I have tried to contact every pawn shop in my area and not a single one would answer any of my questions. I approached each one a little differently after having a few very short phone calls after simply asking if they had my stolen items there. None of these shops want to get involved. i spoke with the detective handling my case and he said by law, pawn shops dont have to tell me if they have my property at their location. i cant believe that it is legal for a business to potentially hide my stolen property from me!! i was also told that even if i find my property at a pawn shop, i have to buy it back at the price that the pawn shop paid for it. where are our rights here? i cant believe that i have to pay to get my property back that was stolen from me. especially from an extremely illegitimate source such as a pawn shop. i dont know how but someone has to change some of these laws protecting these businesses that support theft and get away with it. i know that most items at a pawn shop probably are not stolen, but the government gives too many rights to the owners of these shops and it is the honest, hard-working individuals in society that get taken advantage of through these stores. Either way, i thank you all for your continued help and i will keep you updated in case anything happens. I wish i could continue running into a few of you out there on our local spots but until i get my machine back, that wont be possible. Best of luck hunting and i look forward to hopefully sharing some good news with you guys sometime very soon
 
n/t
 
Yea, what he said above. That's why I was concerned about calling the shops to tell them to watch for it. They might just send the guy away rather than get involved. You have to act like a customer and play their game. As far as having to buy back your items goes, I can't believe that's the law. I bet the right people greasing the right palms got that law passed. The way I understand it if you caught me with your detector and I said I paid somebody for it that would not matter to the police. I'd have no right to expect you to compensate me for buying stolen property. The pawn shops should have to follow the same rules.
 
This is the main reason you don't want to buy anything from a pawn shop, it just gives scumbags
a place to get rid of stolen goods fast.
 
hi guys, thanks for the continued posts/help/discussion. i am going to have to find it some other way. pawn shops will not cooperate no matter how i ask them. even when i call to ask if they have a product they tell me to come down and see whats on the floor. seems they get away with selling all this stolen stuff due to great management of information (meaning they dont let anyone know anything about what they are selling). sad to see that this is acceptable in our modern world/society to even run a business like this but i suppose theres nothing i can do, as an individual, to change the laws that protect these animals. i will continue to check online to see if i can find any of my stolen items and i will continue to follow any advice that any of you give me on this feed. i appreciate the continued help and hope to meet up with some of you once i find my machine. i am extremely stubborn, its not a question of IF i will find my machine, its truly a question of when/where.....keep safe guys and have fun out there
 
If I were you I would call my states attorney generals office and the governors office of consumer affairs, if you have one in Florida. Also, call Clark Howard at (404) 892-8227 Mon-Fri 10:00 AM through 7:00 PM for advice. You wont have to go on air, he has a team of people who will help you figure out how to handle this... and I believe there is a way. Don't give up, don't back off... push harder. Go and sit down with someone at county sheriff's office and at the city police department. Talk to the chamber of commerce, talk to the BBB, contact these people: http://www.nationalpawnbrokers. org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=1
(remove the spaces) if the forum deletes the url just google "national pawnbrokers association". Call them! Call your local TV and radio stations and see if they have an investigative reporter and talk to them, ask for advice.

You are looking for something stolen and the only reason the pawn shops do not want to talk to you is because they will be out of money if they have bought something stolen. This would make me so mad I would bring the whole world down on them. I'd be at all of them every day or two and i'd be loud and to the point. I might even picket someof them on the sidewalk... i'd be on a damn crusade if I were you.

Ask everyone you talk to for someone else to call or talk to. Go to the sheriff and city police departments every day... be a real bother to them and they just might go and check out the pawn shops justto get you off their back. Call the city counsel, the county comissioner, the mayor... call the mayor and the county comossioner every day if the police and/or sheriff don't help you... just be a general pain in everyone's arse and bring all the heat you can down on the pawn shops. They WILL come around if you cause them enough trouble.

Julien
 
i was also told that even if i find my property at a pawn shop, i have to buy it back at the price that the pawn shop paid for it. where are our rights here? i cant believe that i have to pay to get my property back that was stolen from me.

Youmay want to get a second opinion on that, I don't think that is correct. Call the state attorney general's office. They all want you to go away, you need to get louder and push harder. You need to call any local talk show... you need to do any and everything you can think of. Clark Howard's people, mentioned in my other post will not like what you have been told and they have a LOT of clout and will find out for you. They have bulldogs on staff.

Receiving stolen property is a crime, you do not have to nuy it back if you find it... they told you a lie I think. They want you to GO AWAY... Don't Do It!!!

Julien
 
http://www. ffdalaw. com/receiving_stolen_property.html

http://www. tampagov.net/dept_police/Files/legal_docs/fss_539-001. pdf



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how to find stolen property at pawn shop

Julien
 
http: //www .pawnalert .com/

J
 
I don't know why you couldn't accuse the pawn shop of stealing your detector, if you happen to find it for sale in one. If you have it registered, have the serial number and a police report and you find it there... i'd take out a warrant against the store for stealing your detector and let them prove that they didn't and let them prove that it is not yours... they won't be able to since you filed a report that it was stolen. You will win if you stay on it. You need to find an honest broker and find out how long before brokers put an item out for sale... In fact, i'd be going to all the stores now because if it was sold and not pawned it may already be on the shelf. If you find it cal the police and stay there until they come. Print out the state statute on misappropriated items and stand your ground.
Picket the store if you have to... "This store bought my stolen property and refuses to give it back".

Man, i'd be really Pissed if I were you, heck I am pissed and I haven't lost anything... I detest a thief.

J
 
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