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Still cant find a better detector than the compadre for getting close to metal poles

GunnarMN

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you know i just got a gold bug with the 5" coil, and its just a great machine, but i was under a false assumption, and that was it would be able to get close to a metal pole and hit on a target, i found out it could not do this , i tried my small 8" coil on the sov GT and it could not get close , then i remebered the good old days when i had a compadre and could get coins within 3" of a pole and righ next to fences and under metal things , and now i wish i had one back this would be the 3rd time i would get one but i just cant find a better detector than the compadre for such things , i do wish they would put a ground balance on it and a nice sensitivity knobb but i am missiong the compadree,
 
Bells and whistles just went off. I got a place I want to try my Compadre that's close to metal bleacher seats. I worked my Bandido II uMax at that location using a 5.75 inch coil with the sensitivity set on '2'. It worked pretty well. I was digging quarters as deep as 5 inches in the soft moist soil . Maybe the Compadre will do even better.:)

tabman
 
Maybe,.............just maybe........... but I doubt it................... that you can find a detector.............. that can get closer to metal poles......... but I can guarantee you that there is NOT a better detector that can do as well as the Compadre can do in the areas's where these metal poles exist.
 
Getting close to the poles is not just about the Compadre. The Compadre I have has a 9x8 concentric on it and it does not do so well getting close to the poles and fences; not bad but not the closest. I can get closer with the 5.75 concentric on the Cibola or with the 3.6 x 18 cleansweep. I think it is a combination of the detector and coil.

Cleaning up under the bleachers can be very rewarding ... or an exercise in foil clean up! Good luck and watch your head!
Cheers,
tvr
 
I have an older model with the 7" coil and the sense turned up to max.
I can't get within a foot of a pole before it goes off.
Doesn't bother me at all, though, because if there is a target near a pole I still get a distinct double beep every time.
I have found coins within one or two inches of poles that others have missed with this thing because I have learned to listen to what it is really telling me so well.
 
REVIER said:
I have an older model with the 7" coil and the sense turned up to max.
I can't get within a foot of a pole before it goes off.
Doesn't bother me at all, though, because if there is a target near a pole I still get a distinct double beep every time.
I have found coins within one or two inches of poles that others have missed with this thing because I have learned to listen to what it is really telling me so well.

EXACTLY. I swing the Compadre near playground equipment until I get a sense of what the signal sounds like, then I start walking around the equipment.

Swing - BEEP - swing - BEEP - swing - BE-BEEP. Double beeps means "target." If in the wood chips, I try to kick them away from the equipment so I can scan it. If I can't, I just dig and wave handfuls of chips in front of the coil until I find the zincoln. Someday, it's gonna be a RING.
 
Before Tesoro, the C&G wildcat was made. G being Jack Gifford, who founded Tesoro. The wildcat has a STACKED COIL. The coil was super thick, twice as thick as a standard white coil was. the top of the coil did not pick up signals at all, it was shielded somehow. i had one. you could run it under the bottom rung of a slide ladder. the sides did not extend out a lot either. the only reason i let it go was to a wonderful friend who was experienced in the older units. it was a bit heavy and hurt my wrists, but it was a good tot lot machine, and able to get close to playground equipment. and yes i pulled coins right out from under things my other machines could not get near. maybe Tesoro should build another stacked coil or a top cover that is an add on that is shielded, if that was possible.
 
As far as getting close to poles, my Ace 250 w/sniper coild beats my Compadre by 2" getting close to a pole. In fact, I haven't found anything else that'll get that close. You might say it's my Ace in the hole!:rofl:
 
I have pulled out quarters 3" away from the metal poles with the Vaq w/9x8 coil. Once again, it's not the size that counts or what color the machine is, it's how you use it.
 
You must be running the sensitivity way way low. With my sensitivity at ten I usually hear the pole when I am a 1 sometimes almost 2 feet away! That is with the stock coil.


Jeff
 
thump7 said:
I have pulled out quarters 3" away from the metal poles with the Vaq w/9x8 coil. Once again, it's not the size that counts or what color the machine is, it's how you use it.
I have pulled them NEXT to the pole with the sniper coil and lowered sensitivity. My Ace won't pick up gold like the Compadre, but it will beat it in getting up next to stuff.
AND ALSO up UNDER stuff. The Compadre will pick up the metal plates on some swings nearly a foot and a half!
 
Yes, but there's a real downside to that.

Namely, you're swinging an Ace. :poke:
 
Smudge said:
Yes, but there's a real downside to that.

Namely, you're swinging an Ace. :poke:
Couldn't of said it better myself Smudge :thumbup::rofl:
 
My F5 with stock coil has been the best I've found for working close to poles and to curbing. Does much better than the Compadre. Even if the poles causes an overload condition (not all do) The overload only lasts a second, then the F5 resets. You can put it against the metal, wait for the overload reset and pull away. Put it in dual tone mode, the iron "grunts" and the non-ferrous targets "zip". Easy to hear.

But the Compadre is nice, too. ;)

HH
Mike
 
I just have to say something at this point in the thread. I spend a fair amount of time on several forums, both here and elsewhere on the web. I'm sure a lot of you do too.

And in all that time I have never seen a single detector get as much praise or develop longer strings of conversation than the Tesoro Compadre.

Why do you think that is?

Sure, its an inexpensive detector and therefore far more accessible to more people. But that isn't enough to explain what is happening here.

My guess is that in spite of all of the sophistication and information given by more modern detectors, detectorists at heart want the simplicity and the quality of a detector that doesn't miss good targets. Even if it doesn't get 8" on a dime, they want a detector that gives good discrimination, finds the goods, and leaves mystery of what's under the coil.

The Compadre does all that and also hits better on smaller and more interesting and valuable targets than any other detector i've ever used, and I have a pile of cool (and some valuable) stuff all found by the Compadre and no other detector.

What do you folks think is behind it all?
 
Smudge said:
I just have to say something at this point in the thread. I spend a fair amount of time on several forums, both here and elsewhere on the web. I'm sure a lot of you do too.

And in all that time I have never seen a single detector get as much praise or develop longer strings of conversation than the Tesoro Compadre.

Why do you think that is?

Sure, its an inexpensive detector and therefore far more accessible to more people. But that isn't enough to explain what is happening here.

My guess is that in spite of all of the sophistication and information given by more modern detectors, detectorists at heart want the simplicity and the quality of a detector that doesn't miss good targets. Even if it doesn't get 8" on a dime, they want a detector that gives good discrimination, finds the goods, and leaves mystery of what's under the coil.

The Compadre does all that and also hits better on smaller and more interesting and valuable targets than any other detector i've ever used, and I have a pile of cool (and some valuable) stuff all found by the Compadre and no other detector.

What do you folks think is behind it all?
This might sound odd but really think about it before you laugh - detecting is fun no matter what we are using but there is a special kind of fun when using a Compadre almost feels like it is too much fun.
 
Smudge said:
I just have to say something at this point in the thread. I spend a fair amount of time on several forums, both here and elsewhere on the web. I'm sure a lot of you do too.

And in all that time I have never seen a single detector get as much praise or develop longer strings of conversation than the Tesoro Compadre.

Why do you think that is?

Sure, its an inexpensive detector and therefore far more accessible to more people. But that isn't enough to explain what is happening here.

My guess is that in spite of all of the sophistication and information given by more modern detectors, detectorists at heart want the simplicity and the quality of a detector that doesn't miss good targets. Even if it doesn't get 8" on a dime, they want a detector that gives good discrimination, finds the goods, and leaves mystery of what's under the coil.

The Compadre does all that and also hits better on smaller and more interesting and valuable targets than any other detector i've ever used, and I have a pile of cool (and some valuable) stuff all found by the Compadre and no other detector.

What do you folks think is behind it all?
Monte has explained it much better than me-but basically it doesn't have the high gain, low noise circuitry that inteferes with the detection capability in iron-infested conditions. I still can't believe it to this day.. It will duplicate my BFO detector by NOT picking up a nail but finding gold beneath it and do it with greater depth-of course. I sometimes wonder if the Vaq or any of the other modern Tesoros will even duplicate it. I thought the thing was a killer on nickels and the next thing I know I'm also finding more dimes than ever before. Just these past few weeks, I've even set it to just break up on a steel bottlecap and find a coin next to it. And, if a gold ring is duplicated in ID by a tab, or piece of foil, or screwcap why would anything else be necessary?
 
I already said this on another forum, but I gained a different kind of respect for the Compadre as soon as I used my Vaquero. Everyone can use a small coil and great discrimination in certain situations. Popular MD sites just get junkier and junkier as long as people keep going to them over time. As a tool, the Compadre is like a hammer - ya gotta have one.
 
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