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Speed Hunting...:detecting:

mudpuppy

New member
First, leave everything at home (or the car) except your rig, a thin shaft flat screwdriver, and a very light cotton pouch similar to items shown..[attachment 313202 pouch.jpg].

Wear very light and loose fitting pants, shirt too, no kneepads required, you will be stooping for the most part, like a giraffe taking a drink, nice wide legged stoop with no undue stress on the back, bend at the knees, hips, back all at the same time..elbows braced on the knees, very solid and comfortable, when standing back up, sort of fall back in reverse and let your weight assist as you stand so you are not using your leg or back muscles...(You may occasionally drop down on one knee for deeper targets, but never two)...its all about speed and no fooling around with a handheld or the PP button on your rig either...set up with a mid/low sens and neg thresh, DP tones let you know immediately what the target is, and the modulated audio lets you know immediately how deep!....too much sens makes the signal profile too large...you are after targets from surface to @5" with the majority in the 3" depth range which are perfect!....so set up accordingly!

Your goal is to bust 100 targets per hour, so keep all this in mind, focus on speed alone, if you aint got a good ping in a few sweeps, you are in the wrong place! Find a heavy area of targets and get to work...from target acquisition to pouch should take no more than 15sec tops, with the goal being less than 10, and of course you want stacks and spills and slants to really rack up your numbers in a hurry...all your movements must be very comfortable and fluid and not hurting you anywhere in particular....instead of using the PP, learn how to 'hop coil' over a target..its a real fast tapping motion right on top of the target that shoots the beam straight down instead of a side to side wiggle....ping,ping,ping! stoop and stab!

I swing with the right and stab with the left...I touch the target with the screwdriver, as I am descending, I drop my rig on the deck, and put both hands on the driver, right on top, and left on the shaft.. grip the shaft with my left hand below the handle, rip and ream and wow out a hole large enough for my left pointer finger to go down into, then, I tip the coin with the driver in my right hand, and pinch it between it and my left hand pointer finger, and pull straight up! Zoom! hole no bigger than a robins pecker! :rofl: While rising, I pocket the coin with my left hand, pic up my rig with my right, and get straight back at it..its all about time management and fluid motion actually...

Toughest signals are fresh dropped coins in deep grass, you will know when you hear them, so before you stoop to stab, STOMP the area flat!:thumbup: reacquire the target, then stab it!

I really like speed hunting, these F rigs are perfect for it...the toughest thing you will deal with is unlearning your habits with a PP and a shovel hunting for deep silver and setting up light and going for as many shallow targets as fast as possible...it does pay off when you get into a place that has not been hunted in a while and is just loaded to the gills, and you dont have a very long time to hunt it...just another skillset to this Sport..lots more to it, but these are the basics that will get a guy going...I wish I had somebody that could do a vid...you would not believe how fast you can rack up shallow clad with nothing but a screwdriver! I'll repost my 'Field of Dreams" hunt pics from last Dec...I was at the right place, at the right time, with the right gear, and the right mind!:rofl: Zeekeys got me into this way of hunting a few years back, still my favorite way to hunt, its fast and fun and does not hurt a guy at all like you would think it would...go light, fast and shallow if the situation merits!

Good thing is I've used these same settings from MI to AL..even went out to SLC Utah and knocked down heavy Mormon clad at one park once, without GBing at all!...shallow clad dont care! I hunted over in Kernersville NC a few years back and racked up massive clad I remember, so your dirt may be of a similar consistency, (clay/chert)...All this 'quick broom fast stab' is a subset skill within the larger family of detecting skills you may find fun and handy when you need to make gas money in short order at a modern park...the F series are the perfect rig for this...just set it up light, they are designed and intended for deeper targets, not piles of crappy old clad!..Oh, carry a backup driver, you will bust one off in your zealousness occasionally...if you bust off your driver, and dont have a backup, you are shut da hell down!.:rofl:

Mud
 
To try to answer your question, about super fast PP and retrieval of shallow coins...evaluate and time yourself on your present method of hitting and getting a 3-4" dime..if its taking you anywhere over 30sec, you just cant grab enough money in an outing to pay the bills, its an ROI and money vs time dynamic..so you jump out of your rig, turn on your detector and get busy immediately..start paring away until you get down to using a screwdriver...your target is gonna be within a golfball sized area..use your ears and hop that coil!...I like DP tones, on account of I know what I am going after...I like lotsa Q's...they pay the gas..those new dollar coins hide in the Q tone...dimes are good too, the DP tones ping on a dime is tight and crisp and generally dead on..copper pennies sound about the same, but the profile is a bit larger..just takes a bit of practice, not much, about 1000 targets and you are good to go on a massive stabbing spree!...It is amazing how sensitive the human hand is stabbing...you know right away when you hit a coin or a piece of glass or a rock...you know a pulltab or foil from a nickel just on feel...F rigs have such a fast recovery, they like this kind of deal...heres a shot of a stack of 8 Q's...this is the kind of thing you want, lotsa coins from the same hole in a gosh darn hurry!:thumbup: As you can see based upon the different driver used, stacks, spills and slants happen all the time when a guy sets up light..they sound like trash otherwise..
Mud
 
I can only get half as fast as that, maybe 50 coin an hour, but I probably find more jewelry than you because I dig zincs and nickels too. Lots of silver hides in the zinc range(at least on the AT Pro) and I'm happier to find a silver ring than a quarter, they're worth more. I find that on targets deeper than an inch that can retrieve it faster with a garden knife, but I don't have enough pratice with a screw driver yet. I suppose thats also why I have to use my pro pointer to find the targets location before I stab it.
 
I know Seth, I'm sure you could outhunt me, as do a most of the guys here ....this speed hunting is a subset skill for those strange places that are just loaded with clad and a guy wants to just go light and fast...I try to get my share of chains/rings and strange signals that grab my interest, this a a big Planet, and these coils are so small, when I get into heavy clad area I cant help it, and just lose my mind!:rofl:
I've got a At Pro also, but I have not once tried it on the dirt for massive clad, I use it for water and beach gold exclusively...I like the DP tones the F70 has for what I use it for, and I doubt anything is faster...I'm talking speedy clad here..plus, I dont have a Pinpointer, unless you consider an Fpoint one, I use that as a 'pest deterrant' mainly, it buzzes like a yellowjacket and at those urban parks, people thinks its a stun gun or something and leave me alone! A guy makes due.:thumbup:
Mud
 
Nice write-up Mud! :clapping:

This same method is how my uncle got me into this hobby way back when detector control boxes were ALL made of sheet metal :laugh: Most house sites I visit around here have never been touched with a detector, and are usually FULL of pennies, but you have to cleanse the area sometimes to get to where the older coins are...this isn't news for most folks but I will never forget the days of a long straight-slot screwdriver, the 1265-X, and dad driving us to places around where we used to live. He'd have his screwdriver too, and a couple back-ups in the truck, and he did rather well with a White's 5900 that my uncle provided one Christmas for him.

We found an untouched elementary school about 4 miles from the house where we pulled tens of thousands of coins, occasional jewelry, and rare Wheat cents! It was always "Old Reliable" for us and in 30 minutes we had always found enough to cover the cost of diesel to get there (When diesel fuel was CHEAPER than gas :veryangry: )...it was our dirt therapy for Sunday afternoons before dinner...

Had the Garrett Propointers been available at that time I couldn't imagine how much more HOOKED him and I would become! I can remember digging a 6" Wheat around 1988 or so with the 1265-X...we'd always stab the ground and listen for the "click". He and I had some forearms, too! This worked perfectly for us since W Tenn doesn't have hardly any naturally occurring rocks in the soil - so if you hit something solid, chances are it would be a coin! Digging a 6" deep hole in the summertime with a screwdriver was quite the task though! It was a 1950 Wheat - I'll never forget digging it and was so excited to do so - today there is still excitement whenever a Wheat shows up...but to get to that level today it takes at least a silver dime to get the same thrill!

I stilll haven't found where Ben is hiding yet but the search continues...

By the way the best screwdrivers we used were either Craftsman or something with a Cr-V (chromium-vanadium alloy) type steel. Those dollar-store screwdrivers will bend if you look at them funny

Great Post! :bouncy:
 
No doubt Mr Mud you have it down pat and are the master of the quick broom clad stabbing art. I am still not swayed, though, to give up my quest for the elusive silver coin, Indians, Buffs, V's, and so on. But, clad spends and will take whatever comes along. Plus, I am getting to old for all that high finance quick broom stuff. :rofl: You are the master, though. HH jim tn
 
Mud, that's a nice looking Ben you got there.:thumbup: You find enough clad in a year to buy more silver coins than most can find in a year.

If you did your speed hunting with the discrimination set just below nickel, I bet you'd be rolling in gold rings.

tabman
 
Okay Mud,

I think got a pretty good mental picture of what you are doing, now I need to get me a couple of screwdrivers, looks like maybe 6" shaft. Then a little practice on that pin pointing, all in disc mode.

I was trying out the motion part and my wife ask me what kind of exercise I was doing. :lol: I think I will need to find a more private place to work on that.

Thanks Mud,

Ron in WV
 
Thanks guys, Once I accidentally found a silver dime, and it was a rush alright! I can see why a fellow could get hooked on the hunt for it exclusively...theres so many subsets of hunting skills this Sport affords, it would take a lifetime to try to master them all...not that a guy shouldnt try though..:thumbup:..Good Luck this weekend to you all!..
Mud
 
Wow Mud that is like bank-robbing smash -n- grab speed. I am going to try this over at one of my local elementary schools one weekend. I have a perfect field I want to try this in. I will heed your warning and carry an extra screw driver just in case. Nothing worse than being bent over six ways from Sunday with a broken screw driver.
 
I got an X-PRO with the 4 Tone I.D. and a Bigfoot coil that would be perfect for this type of hunting in big athletic fields and such as the 4th tone is Quarter up. If not to trashy sample the second tone where most gold falls. This should be a new type of hunting to try for me .
 
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