Sovereign X2 Pro Tone Adjustment

[cjc]

Does anyone know if there's an internal adjustment for the discriminate tone response on the X2 Pro? I have one that sounds higher than some of the other models. Has it been modded?
regards,
clive

 

[Ron from Michigan]

Clive,there are two pots one for the threshold and tone.The tone pot should be the one nearest to the coil connector.I usually adjust too much and have found if there is another Sovereign around just tune to match with my good Sovereign.Kind of like tuning guitar strings.Good Luck Ron

 

[cjc]

Thanks for your reply, Ron--I appreciate your knowledge of the Sov. and BBS detectors.
Kind Regards,
clive

 

[Rick(ND)]

Yes I have always hated those that do this mod with the higher tones and then sell them because they cant get them to work correctly. I feel most need to learn the Sovereign first with the factory set tones, then if they want to do this mod to see if it makes a difference is OK, but please set them back to the factory settings before you resell them. When I was buying some of the Sovereigns and reselling them there just was too many that sold them because they couldn't understand them and many were ones the tones were set as high as they go, good thing I had another Sovereign around to compare the tones too.
To me the Sovereign are one of the best detectors ever made and have plenty of great finds to prove it.


Rick

 

[dewcon4414]

I dont disagree with you about learning the factory settings, but i adjusted my GT to be what i believe is a little more suited to beach hunting for my hearing..... using foil, pull tabs, a nickel and some smaller gold. It separated the lower tones for me a bit better by reducing the higher factory setting. But, ive never tested to see the depth difference on deep buried targets. I will say i get great depth with it thou and didnt notice any depth difference once adjusted. BUT... im not dirt hunting and i also agree, if you sell it it should be adjusted back.

Dew

 

[Ron from Michigan]

While back I bought a used Sovereign XS and the ad said excellent working condition.When I got the detector and turned it on was very disappointed no tones and every target sounded like a burp.I couldn't figure out how this gentlemen found any thing with this Sovereign.The problem with this detector the tone pot was adjusted to the lowest point.After adjusting back to around factory specs the Sovereign worked fine.My guess there would be a sweet spot for the tone adjustment to get better performance,but would probably depend on the individual users hearing ability.LOL maybe one mod too many but an exposed pot may have a benefit to achieve a better setting for the user.

 

[dewcon4414]

Ron.... the other adjustment was a threshold adjustment, im not certain why? Doesnt Dixie Detectors do a mod for the Sov that allegedly will get you a little depth? That has to be inside the box.

Dew

 

[Ron from Michigan]

Dew,there is no room to fit another pot or tuner on the Sovereign face plate,but there are plenty of options on the control box.Same value pot to replace the one on the board, some wire and a knob.My guess the whole cost would be under $5.00.This would be the same process as a Mr. Bill Mod except on a Sovereign instead of a White's Classic model.Again this would allow the user to fine tune the tone adjustment in the field.Down side this could be another hack mod job,I agree with Rick, there are too many Sovereigns that need repaired from mods gone wrong.

 

[Neil]

While back I bought a used Sovereign XS and the ad said excellent working condition.When I got the detector and turned it on was very disappointed no tones and every target sounded like a burp.I couldn't figure out how this gentlemen found any thing with this Sovereign.The problem with this detector the tone pot was adjusted to the lowest point.After adjusting back to around factory specs the Sovereign worked fine.My guess there would be a sweet spot for the tone adjustment to get better performance,but would probably depend on the individual users hearing ability.LOL maybe one mod too many but an exposed pot may have a benefit to achieve a better setting for the user.

I agree, I think that sweet spot is more what an individual can hear versus actual performance difference.

The Sov was always known as a detector that could be modded, so many mods available for it.

 

[Neil]

Clive,there are two pots one for the threshold and tone.The tone pot should be the one nearest to the coil connector.I usually adjust too much and have found if there is another Sovereign around just tune to match with my good Sovereign.Kind of like tuning guitar strings.Good Luck Ron

Ron do you know what the threshold pot does? Is it some kind of pitch adjustment as well?

I know there used to be a place to move the jumper inside where you could go from threshold based search in disc to silent search in disc(on the older black box sovs). That is of course a toggle on the GT now.
Never cared for that mod but will say from time to time I will turn my threshold down from a mild barely audible buzz to not being able to hear it and haven't really noticed any performance differences this way.

 

[Neil]

Ron.... the other adjustment was a threshold adjustment, im not certain why? Doesnt Dixie Detectors do a mod for the Sov that allegedly will get you a little depth? That has to be inside the box.

Dew

Dew I had a couple of Sovs with this mod, there is a label placed inside the box that's says the mods were done. The modded black box ones I never saw any difference but I had a GT about a year ago and it was modded also by Dixie and the pitch was very high on the tones. It was one of if not the deepest sov Ive ever owned. There are some variances that I cannot explain that makes one hotter than another. I remember when the XS was the newest model and I swapped those around as did another guy, Chuck down in Florida, to get the ones that went the deepest.

I never read about anyone with electronic experience who had looked at a Dixie modded sov versus a non modded sov and saw any physical difference or could explain what was done on that Dixie mod.
Or even if David at Dixie even does it anymore?

 

[Rick(ND)]

This is me with my bad hearing on all tones volume with the highest tones being the worst. Some do swear by the Dixie mods and some do not, but I had to see for myself so I had a nice XS I got in a trade in and did some air test and other test when it was stock and then sent in the XS to have the mods done to it and did the same test with it to see if I notice any improvements with it. My finding is the tones were set as high as they would go which was not as loud for me because the high tones are my hardest to hear. The tones for me sounded too much the same and hard to tell the difference in the tones without looking at the meter as my nickles almost sounded like a copper or clad coin in the factory settings. For me I lost about 1/2 inch to a inch depth with the mods as I couldn't hear the weak signals with the silent search like I could with the threshold there. For me and my bad hearing this was not for me so I set the threshold back up and set the tones to match my other Sovereigns and this worked much better for me. Now it is probably my bad hearing has something to do with this, but I also feel with the threshold I can tell if I am swing the coil to fast also with the nulling it does and where I find many of my coins with the slight change in the threshold going very very slow.
On my GT I did see a use for the silent search as I know most of my hunting it sees iron, so the threshold most of the time is the low tone growl and if you are in a area where non ferrous targets are far and few the silent search is good as I don't have to listen to that low growl. When I start getting more signals I will take it out of silent search so I can hear everything again.
Like I say some swear by the tone and silent search mods and if it works good for them they should use it, some like me may be looking for the deep coins and ones others have missed because of trash close by and we have to go slow and listen to the threshold changing.


Rick

 

[Neil]

This is me with my bad hearing on all tones volume with the highest tones being the worst. Some do swear by the Dixie mods and some do not, but I had to see for myself so I had a nice XS I got in a trade in and did some air test and other test when it was stock and then sent in the XS to have the mods done to it and did the same test with it to see if I notice any improvements with it. My finding is the tones were set as high as they would go which was not as loud for me because the high tones are my hardest to hear. The tones for me sounded too much the same and hard to tell the difference in the tones without looking at the meter as my nickles almost sounded like a copper or clad coin in the factory settings. For me I lost about 1/2 inch to a inch depth with the mods as I couldn't hear the weak signals with the silent search like I could with the threshold there. For me and my bad hearing this was not for me so I set the threshold back up and set the tones to match my other Sovereigns and this worked much better for me. Now it is probably my bad hearing has something to do with this, but I also feel with the threshold I can tell if I am swing the coil to fast also with the nulling it does and where I find many of my coins with the slight change in the threshold going very very slow.
On my GT I did see a use for the silent search as I know most of my hunting it sees iron, so the threshold most of the time is the low tone growl and if you are in a area where non ferrous targets are far and few the silent search is good as I don't have to listen to that low growl. When I start getting more signals I will take it out of silent search so I can hear everything again.
Like I say some swear by the tone and silent search mods and if it works good for them they should use it, some like me may be looking for the deep coins and ones others have missed because of trash close by and we have to go slow and listen to the threshold changing.


Rick

Rick that's how a buddy of mines hearing is, he cant hear high pitched tones well at all on his Sov so he adjusted them to a lower setting.
He cut down trees for a living when he was a lot younger and never wore ear protection.