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Re: A little prediction for GT
Posted by: JP55
Date: 5 hours ago Registered: Today
Posts: 3
I posted that last post thinking that it was going under the dealer that said that they have a signed contract with Minelab and have to sell at the new price.
The ones that you will find for $800 will be the HONEST dealers that had them in inventory before the price increase.
Also,I contacted Minelab and this is some of what they told me......It is company policy that we dont discuss what our R&D team is working on.
What we have announced through our dealer network, is that the Sovereign GT will have a small price rise, due to mounting costs on parts and manufacturing.
Best regards,
Humm...... A SMALL 25% increase due to mounting costs on parts and manufacturing.
This whole thing is a joke.
If that was honestly the case than ALL units should have gone up 25% or more,right?
And if you look at the Safari which is basically a beefed up Sovereign Gt with better and newer technology,more frequencies,a bigger coil,etc.it is a $100.00 cheaper then the 10 year old out dated old technology GT?
It would make no sense for Minelab to discontinue the GT .But it would make sense for them to improve it.If that was even possible?
There are a lot of people like myself that prefer it over the E-trek on down to the Safari,so why would you discontinue a solid winner?
Toner ID as accurate as the GT blows away all the misguided crap that comes on a screen and wastes your limited time in the field.
And the 17 frequencies seem to work a lot better and deeper than one or two or 28.
If 28 frequencies was so great,why didn't Minelab make a 28 frequency Excaliber 3 ?
That would have been the mother of all waterproof detectors.
28 frequencies just has too much going on.
So because I'm an @#$%&,I Assume that the price increase is to make way for a newer Sovereign and Excaliber ( maybe add some multi pulse sensing to it or something fun) and to pave the way for justifying the cost when it comes out?
Or since I'm being an @#$%&,maybe the GT and Excaliber sell better than all the new junk that they have been putting out from the e-trak on down and that their just flat out greedy bastards taking advantage of the people who help build their company?
Only time will tell.
Again a $200.00 increase on a 10 year old detector,give me a break.
This is even beyond simple greed and insulting our intelligences.
Re: A little prediction for GT
Posted by: JP55
Date: 5 hours ago Registered: Today
Posts: 3
I posted that last post thinking that it was going under the dealer that said that they have a signed contract with Minelab and have to sell at the new price.
The ones that you will find for $800 will be the HONEST dealers that had them in inventory before the price increase.
Also,I contacted Minelab and this is some of what they told me......It is company policy that we dont discuss what our R&D team is working on.
What we have announced through our dealer network, is that the Sovereign GT will have a small price rise, due to mounting costs on parts and manufacturing.
Best regards,
Humm...... A SMALL 25% increase due to mounting costs on parts and manufacturing.
This whole thing is a joke.
If that was honestly the case than ALL units should have gone up 25% or more,right?
And if you look at the Safari which is basically a beefed up Sovereign Gt with better and newer technology,more frequencies,a bigger coil,etc.it is a $100.00 cheaper then the 10 year old out dated old technology GT?
It would make no sense for Minelab to discontinue the GT .But it would make sense for them to improve it.If that was even possible?
There are a lot of people like myself that prefer it over the E-trek on down to the Safari,so why would you discontinue a solid winner?
Toner ID as accurate as the GT blows away all the misguided crap that comes on a screen and wastes your limited time in the field.
And the 17 frequencies seem to work a lot better and deeper than one or two or 28.
If 28 frequencies was so great,why didn't Minelab make a 28 frequency Excaliber 3 ?
That would have been the mother of all waterproof detectors.
28 frequencies just has too much going on.
So because I'm an @#$%&,I Assume that the price increase is to make way for a newer Sovereign and Excaliber ( maybe add some multi pulse sensing to it or something fun) and to pave the way for justifying the cost when it comes out?
Or since I'm being an @#$%&,maybe the GT and Excaliber sell better than all the new junk that they have been putting out from the e-trak on down and that their just flat out greedy bastards taking advantage of the people who help build their company?
Only time will tell.
Again a $200.00 increase on a 10 year old detector,give me a break.
This is even beyond simple greed and insulting our intelligences.
Andy Sabisch
Active member
t seems someone always has a lead on some secret detector under development and with the posts of the "Sovereign + Excalibur" hybrid floating around, be interesting to toss some thoughts around in terms of what might or might not be coming and what the reception at the dance might in fact be.
I don't think anyone out there would say that the Sovereign (any of the models over the years) or the Excalibur (also any model over the years) is not a top player on the salt water beaches. The worse the black sand gets the better it performs compared to most single frequency detectors although some of the newer ones such as the AT Pro and the G2 have really shocked many users in these conditions (me included). Technology moves ahead and as the old saying goes, "Even if you are on the right track you will get run over if you are standing still." The BBS circuit was developed in 1990 and has remained virtually unchanged since that time which is 21 years (man do I feel old
) Solid performer for sure but the rest of the industry has not remained stuck in 1990 either.
So lately there have been some posts with the following image . . . is it a legitimate Minelab photo? Well time will tell but having worked with them for more than 20 years on various projects, releasing photos of products not yet released or within a month of release has not happened before.
I guess one would have to look at the detector with a critical eye and tehn look at what it would like retail for. With the knobs shown, it could not be dive rated. The coil connector is plastic which looks cheap and on a high end detector, that would either be a really bad design choice or not reality.
How about the mode change button . . . . . the control housing would have to be hard wired to the switch which means it could not come off the shaft . . . . . does that make sense from a shipping or transport perspective . . . . . the entire upper section would need to remain in place as shown.
Assuming it uses the same mold design as the GT which it appears to be, to make it waterproof even to say 10 feet, include the waterproof headphones, the recharge system and Minelabs higher-priced coils (look at the $$ tag of the optional X-Terra coils), you would need to see a list price pushing $2,000 unless Minelab would be willing to lose money on each sale or find an innovative way to build them. A non-waterproof Sovereign retailing for over $1,000 can this model cost anywhere near that price? .
There will always be a market for any detector. Many people question the marketing logic of the new GPX 4800 and GPX 5000 with price tags over $5,000 but they are selling. For that price I had better be out finding gold and lots of it or I'd be sharing the backyard with the dog! The economy is a driver for many of us and if a new detector that sells for say $1,995 gets 10% more depth than say a $895 detector, will most people opt for the higher priced model? If someone is hunting freshwater beaches, the DetectorPro models costing half or less of an Excal will find smaller gold than an Excal . . . . no black sand and salt makes a difference in the detector purchased.
It will be interesting to see what comes out in 2011 . . . some nice additions in the end of 2010 which I hope is just the tip of the iceberg. Just hope the arctic weather here in the South is gone soon . . . . 8 inches of snow a week ago, low 20's every day and sleet a few times a week makes for a frustrating winter!
Andy Sabisch
I don't think anyone out there would say that the Sovereign (any of the models over the years) or the Excalibur (also any model over the years) is not a top player on the salt water beaches. The worse the black sand gets the better it performs compared to most single frequency detectors although some of the newer ones such as the AT Pro and the G2 have really shocked many users in these conditions (me included). Technology moves ahead and as the old saying goes, "Even if you are on the right track you will get run over if you are standing still." The BBS circuit was developed in 1990 and has remained virtually unchanged since that time which is 21 years (man do I feel old
) Solid performer for sure but the rest of the industry has not remained stuck in 1990 either.So lately there have been some posts with the following image . . . is it a legitimate Minelab photo? Well time will tell but having worked with them for more than 20 years on various projects, releasing photos of products not yet released or within a month of release has not happened before.
I guess one would have to look at the detector with a critical eye and tehn look at what it would like retail for. With the knobs shown, it could not be dive rated. The coil connector is plastic which looks cheap and on a high end detector, that would either be a really bad design choice or not reality.
How about the mode change button . . . . . the control housing would have to be hard wired to the switch which means it could not come off the shaft . . . . . does that make sense from a shipping or transport perspective . . . . . the entire upper section would need to remain in place as shown.
Assuming it uses the same mold design as the GT which it appears to be, to make it waterproof even to say 10 feet, include the waterproof headphones, the recharge system and Minelabs higher-priced coils (look at the $$ tag of the optional X-Terra coils), you would need to see a list price pushing $2,000 unless Minelab would be willing to lose money on each sale or find an innovative way to build them. A non-waterproof Sovereign retailing for over $1,000 can this model cost anywhere near that price? .
There will always be a market for any detector. Many people question the marketing logic of the new GPX 4800 and GPX 5000 with price tags over $5,000 but they are selling. For that price I had better be out finding gold and lots of it or I'd be sharing the backyard with the dog! The economy is a driver for many of us and if a new detector that sells for say $1,995 gets 10% more depth than say a $895 detector, will most people opt for the higher priced model? If someone is hunting freshwater beaches, the DetectorPro models costing half or less of an Excal will find smaller gold than an Excal . . . . no black sand and salt makes a difference in the detector purchased.
It will be interesting to see what comes out in 2011 . . . some nice additions in the end of 2010 which I hope is just the tip of the iceberg. Just hope the arctic weather here in the South is gone soon . . . . 8 inches of snow a week ago, low 20's every day and sleet a few times a week makes for a frustrating winter!
Andy Sabisch