so i finally got out with my new/used wot coil, tried it on the beach and shallow water first, ok so first thing i am noticing is that it is heavy and seems off balance, well took it down by the water, low tide of course, and even in those little waves it got thrown around at times i had to pull it out of the water just to control it,well after getting frustrated doing that tried the wet sand then ended up on dry sand, so my first impression is i like the coil but it is heavy, never tried hip mounting it, but up on dry sand this thing was amazing, very deep, clad down to 10 maybe 12 ", now the beach i was on is a public beach but i never got a signal anywhere near the water, the dry sand yes got signals not many but a few clad coins, my one problem with this coil seems to be pinpointing, i am use to the original 8" coin search coil that came with it and that coil can pinpoint , damn this is starting to look like one of critterhunters posts, lol, no offense buddy, nothing but great info from your posts....well second time out took the wot to a park here in town just to see what it would do, and it did ok, i hate digging crap out of the ground at 10 or so inches but i am still trying to learn this machine ,ok so back to pinpointing can anybody tell me where exactly the coil is pinpointing from ? is it right under the shaft mount or in front of that, seems to me to be all over at times but only in the park, on the beach nice and slow swing and i am hearing things that i didnt ever think would be that deep, so theres my story an hoping for a little help on pinpointing and also balancing it out a little seems coil heavy, yes i know there are posts for that to read and i will, ok i think i am done well maybe one more stupid post or a message to critter, not sure yet, thanks guys for all help and so much friggin reading,lol, larry in new jersey