Sov GT

[jspoon]

Does the sov gt give different tones for pennies,dimes, quarters? I hate digging shallow dimes and pennies. I have an m6 right now which gives a high tone for coins with vid so if it's a penny 3" down i'm not gettin on my knees. Just wondering if the sov gives just a high tone for most coins or can it differentiate between different denominations?
thanks
HH John

 

[Rob in (Ca)]

I own both The M6 and the GT, The M6 VDI 77 is going to be a zinc penny or maybe a dime, it sure not going to be any Jewelry at 77, so Skip all 60-77 Quarters will read in the 80's. That's up to you if you want to dig Quarter's .

The GT with time, You can read the GT tone's, it's not going to happen over night though, it's best to get the 180 meter with the GT and spend time with it. I use the GT at the Beach with out the Meter as I dig all Good sounding Targets at the Beach.

When I Park hunt I Must have a Meter so I use the M6 with the Bigfoot coil to sort though all the trash and it pinpoints dead on within a 3 inch circle, easier to dig, With the M6 Dig all High 40's as it will be a Large pull tab or a heavy set Ring as I have found 3 Rings with the M6 and 2 Rings with the GT at the Beach this year, and the Beach season is just starting.

Good luck

 

[jspoon]

I have the m6 with the 10"DD does the sov blow the m6 away on depth? I'm not finding any deep older coins.
Thanks
HH John

 

[Rob in (Ca)]

I Only hunt for jewelry, I'M not After super Depth like the old coin shooters & relic hunters are. But if I was after Super Depth, then I would be looking at the Etrac/SE or the new V3 or a PI Machine.

 

[Rick(ND)]

Now the tones on the GT or any Sovereign for a copper penny, dimes clad or silver plus the quarters and half dollars and even alum cans will be the same tone and same meter reading, The Zinc pennies the IH pennies and even some of the early wheat pennies will sound a little lower pitch and this is where a good 180 meter comes in to tell the copper and better from the zincs. From a lot of experience you may be able to tell the silver from the clads with the tones and how the meter reading will be, but it is not 100% and it takes getting to know the Sovereign well. The Sovereigns are one of the deepest and most accurate on IDing deep coins once you learn this detector as it give you the operator more info on your target and lets you decide to dig or not, not like many that just beeps and thinks it is something it feels you should dig.
I find the tones and how big a signal and how weak it is to tell the depth which also in most cases tells me it is deeper and where older coins are found. In other words if it is loud and bigger sounding I lift the coil and swing the coil and if it sounds about the same it is a large target like a alum can. Now if raising the coils and the signal gets weaker it is probably a surface target. Now if it is weaker and seems like it is very small and reads 179-180 doing the Sovereign wiggle or the tones and the meter is trying to rise it is a deeper target which is a older coin. In order to get depth you have to go slower then most detectors, you can not go too slow, but can easy go too fast and lose some depth.

If you spend the time to learn it and understand it I feel you will be impressed with what this detector can do. I dont care if it is a penny, dime quarter or silver coin if it read 179-180 on a 180 meter I will be digging, if this sounds deeper and weaker I smile a little more while digging as I figure it is a older coin.

Good luck and have some patience as it will be worth it.

Rick

 

[Bling]

if your GT does NOT have diff tones for those items you better get it fixed! my GT will have (as all Sovereigns have) a diff tone for many items.low for Gold/pull tab/nickle lower for silver lower yet for foil,high for clad dime and so on.and nulls on Iron. iv found many dimes @ 15" on the beach,its plenty deep enough for me.the only thing iv found deeper is a PI , but you digg too much junk with them witn no discrimanation..good luck.
Now the tones on the GT or any Sovereign for a copper penny, dimes clad or silver plus the quarters and half dollars and even alum cans will be the same tone and same meter reading, The Zinc pennies the IH pennies and even some of the early wheat pennies will sound a little lower pitch and this is where a good 180 meter comes in to tell the copper and better from the zincs. From a lot of experience you may be able to tell the silver from the clads with the tones and how the meter reading will be, but it is not 100% and it takes getting to know the Sovereign well. The Sovereigns are one of the deepest and most accurate on IDing deep coins once you learn this detector as it give you the operator more info on your target and lets you decide to dig or not, not like many that just beeps and thinks it is something it feels you should dig.
I find the tones and how big a signal and how weak it is to tell the depth which also in most cases tells me it is deeper and where older coins are found. In other words if it is loud and bigger sounding I lift the coil and swing the coil and if it sounds about the same it is a large target like a alum can. Now if raising the coils and the signal gets weaker it is probably a surface target. Now if it is weaker and seems like it is very small and reads 179-180 doing the Sovereign wiggle or the tones and the meter is trying to rise it is a deeper target which is a older coin. In order to get depth you have to go slower then most detectors, you can not go too slow, but can easy go too fast and lose some depth.

If you spend the time to learn it and understand it I feel you will be impressed with what this detector can do. I dont care if it is a penny, dime quarter or silver coin if it read 179-180 on a 180 meter I will be digging, if this sounds deeper and weaker I smile a little more while digging as I figure it is a older coin.

Good luck and have some patience as it will be worth it.

Rick

 

[Rick(ND)]

Did I misunderstand the question or did you? The Sovereign does have a different tones for many items, not sure how many really, but for a copper penny, dime, quarter or half clad or silver will give the same tone so you will have to dig copper pennies if you want the dimes and quarters. Now the nickles will read much lower and the zinc pennies lower than the copper one a little bit and where a good 180 meter will tell the difference.

 

[Bling]

you were right Rick,i miss read it.thought he wasnt getting any tone diff at all....but i can after 4 years of use tell the diff most of the time on the clad dime will be sharper tinnier sound and quarter will have a bit of a wow sound..but i only want the silver and gold so i only dig the low tones.i read somewhere that it has 17 tones,one for each freq.but i only here about 5 that i know of. VA Max had a audio like utube on here at one time a year ago you could down load and here each tone as he ran items under coil .there were many diff tones.good luck and may you all find Gold!

 

[Rick(ND)]

I agree that after you get to know the Sovereign that you can tell from experience how a quarter or a penny will sound and also silver and clad. Between the tones and how the meter numbers react is how it works for me, but not 100% accurate.
I am sure there are many different tones, but we can only hear so many of them as some are so close together it is hard to tell and why I believe a meter is so important as we can see what we may not hear when picking out good targets that the tone are close to trash tones. Being you like to dig the low tones of gold I am sure you have seen that gold seems to have a smoother tone than that of trash even though the tones are very close to one another.
The Minelab Sovereigns are one of the better detectors on the market and I feel these will be one detector people will be talking about many year to come as one of the best they ever owned.


Rick

 

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I agree that the tones are smoother, almost buttery sounding for gold rings while quarters and halves sound more like ca-ching ca-ching almost like the ice cream vender's bells (way way back Bling).

 

[Bling]

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[Ltr113]

I've only been swinging my GT for about a week. So far, I've heard about 4 distinct sounds:
1. Trumpet (ding)
2. French Horn (sort of baritone)
3. Mosquito (high pitched buzz)
4. Zipper (like on a jacket)

I'm sure there are more but I don't have the GT ears yet.

 

[Ltr113]

Here's a link I found with some tones:

Sovereign Tones