Finally after 2 weeks of yard work and clean up I was able to tinker around with the old sov. I used fresh batteries in the holder so I took them out and noticed like a white sugary coating on the outside of one of the battery holders.No batteries leaked thats a good thing .I took them out and placed them back in.Now everything is normal.Been so long out of the loop that I have to relearn a lot of tips and tricks once again.Now if all goes well I would be in the market to a rechargeable pack.I did rebuild my old one years ago but never charged it up for like 9 years,it doesnt want to charge or maybe I need another charger.Iam using the sunray charger,maybe it doesn't have the capacity to charge that pack up or my pack is dead for good.I want to thank Rick, Ron and Pat (the lurker come on out buddy LOL) for the guidance and input!!