Sorry folks if I offended anyone with my answer to sandbandits post against Martin's post! He got my...

[Ma Betty in MO]

redheaded, Irish temper up and had to tell him what I wanted to that just because we post against Obama, we are not Racists but Christian Conservatives posting against his actions which are ungodly and he is greedy by using the taxpayers' movies on all his vacations and etc. which are many! The murdering of preborn and newborn babies is wrong of which he approves and since he lies all the time, a person cannot believe anything he says! He is useless as a leader and I will say so, for his ungodly actions speak louder than words....he is not a Christian for a Christian wouldn't believe or do what he says and does! He is a Muslim and Socialist and is destroying our nation by his actions of agreeing with satan and doing his bidding! I am not a racist and never have been, but if the blacks keep murdering and doing what they are right now to the whites and their own people...then I just might become one, for they make me sick and angry when they harm or kill innocent people...like a two-year old baby, who was shot in the face and murdered! May God have mercy on our nation and I pray He saves those who will be saved and then Come quickly, Lord Jesus! Amen! Ma

 

[SeniorSeeker]

It's okay ma. Let's let it go and let God deal with it. You just take good care of yourself and get better soon my friend. You remain in my prayers.

Martin

 

[Ma Betty in MO]

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[Nauti]

You are right Ma....it's not drivel.I do not know what you posted or what it contained but I do know this......white christians are being persecuted as racists all over the world.Over in England we seem to have less rights than minorities.....they always play the racist card and it's time it was stamped out.Government figures over here prove beyond any doubt that you are more likely to be a victim of a racist attack if you are a white British person......unfortunately the majority do not realise this as it is hidden from them.
There is a black guy over in your country called Larry Elder.......look him up on the internet Ma.....he knows what is really going on and he is'nt afraid to talk about it.He can't quite understand why white people just sit back and take it on the chin......he knows racism is more of a black problem than a white one.
It's good to see somebody standing up to this rubbish for a change rarther than turning a blind eye.God bless you Ma,i'm sure things will get better soon.
Best wishes,neil.

 

[Ma Betty in MO]

Who will fight and am fighting with God's Word the rights of others to have freedom in this nation and even the world.....being quite and being afraid to offend someone is what has caused all the problems we have in our nation and I will not shut-up when it comes to speaking the truth...no matter who it is that is doing wrong....even Obama and Congress....who think they are kings and queens...most are so wealthy...having millions and millions of dollars and don't need to work but for power and to get their bad viewpoints across and onto others they keep getting elected and re-elected to rule over the people because they love power and all the benefits of gov't...even when they don't need them and could help those who they hold up without a gun! Obama lovers just keep playing the Race cards, even when the truth hits them in the face and shouldn't be denied...BUT IS!!! Deep depression is coming upon the whole world and then many will turn to God for help and by praying in Jesus' name....many will receive His help but many won't! Thanks again, Neil and May God Bless you and yours! Amen! Ma

 

[steve in so la]

That being stay in this country & work toward a better tomorrow. Steve in so la

 

[SeniorSeeker]

Amen Steve! I have little or zero interesting in arguing with anyone over Polotics. The fact of the matter is President Obama has been elected twice to serve this country. The first time was a landslide but the second not so much so. The information on how and by whom he was elected has been readily available. The fact tell the story rather well and the fact is he is one of the worst presidents we've elected in the history of this country. Frankly I don't care what color he is or isn't. The fact remains he's not presidential material and never will be. I'm not a democrat per say but I would rather have seen Hillary Clinton win the election the first time rather than Obama. I think she may have been a reasonably good president but she was fighting an up hill battle against a billionaire that was personally grooming Obama for the position. That's how the news media see's it and, for the most part I agree. Enough said.

 

[Ma Betty in MO]

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[Ma Betty in MO]

I believe and not what he stands for, but I do believe God allowed him to be in office to bring the fulfillment of the Book of Revelation and to stir up the people to seek God in Jesus' name again, for Muslim and Socialist nations is not for me and I trust many, many others! BO was elected...even by hook and crook...with the dead voting and rigged polls which has been proven! This could have been stopped by God, but wasn't, so I believe we are headed to be a third world nation and keep sliding down into the muddy pits of Communism and Sharia Law, which is bad for women and I hate to see it coming for my daughters and granddaughters! If you are happy with Obama and the Liberal Democrat leaders than so be it and you can sit back and enjoy the downfall of our nation! No more is needed said but quit calling people who do not like Obama as president Racists because I am not! But I do know the trees by the fruits they bear and Obama doesn't bear good fruit and never has! If we aren't part of the betterment of our nation than we are the problem and I don't intend to be part of the problem by living off the gov't trough that pigs live off of although many cannot help it because of Obama's poor policies and rulings! :sad: Ma

 

[Ma Betty in MO]

hopefully seek God in Jesus' name and make a good change in our country by standing firmly for our Constitution and aren't unpatriotic to the USA and hate America like the Obama's do and have admitted! But God is in control and if this is to fulfill the Book of Revelation and bring us to the end of the age, then it will be thus so! Our Father knows best and our prayers and obedience move His heart for our good and for His purpose! Amen! Ma

 

[sweepdog]

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[Ma Betty in MO]

what God does is provide the means to pay, if and when we need it and pray for help while loving and obeying Jesus! God doesn't always stop things from happening, although He can and does in case of accidents and etc. We are to do what we can to lower the bills and then stand on faith that it will be settled fairly and just by those who charge the bills! That is what I am trying to do now by copying and sending the water bills to them and having the Water Co send an adjustment for Jan, Feb and March usage when I had the problem of which I didn't know about, for being ill, I don't always go downstairs.. only to wash clothes and now I am trying to sort and pack my STUFF for sale, for getting my home up for sale and moving! Whatever God would have me do then He will supply the means in His time and not ours! Trials are what helps us grow in faith and if everything worked perfectly all the time then there would be no need for prayers or faith in God or our leaning on and trusting in His beloved Son, Jesus! He could also keep my home from settling which causes problems with my foundation, but that is for me to try and get stopped by Pier Drilling and He has supplied the monies for that in 1991, although I've still problems, as this house was built in 1968 and with the clay soil it is built upon there is still a lot of settlement which makes cracks even in my garage floor to make it more difficult to sell my home for a decent price but God is good and is good all the time, so things will work out for my good and for His purpose! Romans 8:28! A just God works through His faithful Saints and also performs miracles many times! I hope and pray you know Jesus as your own personal Savior and Lord, for to do without Him is not good because He is our problem solver and our provider! Amen! Ma

 

[Nauti]

Ma,you are a strong spirited person and it's good to see somebody like yourself standing up for what you believe.There are too many people these days who are ignorant to what is going on because they are too wrapped up living materialistic lives and can't see the dangers coming.We have the same problem over here with certain groups trying to erode our way of life while the majority are asleep to what is going on.
Good old fashioned Christian values are seemingly being attacked from every direction over here.....we can't do this or that for fear of offending some other faith or group of people......it's pathetic.
You stick to your guns Ma and don't be afraid to say what you think.....nothing will get done if we all keep our mouths shut.
All the best Ma,neil.

 

[steve in so la]

a just God would prevent tragedies like Columbine from happening ? Steve in so la

 

[Ma Betty in MO]

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[Nauti]

a just God would prevent tragedies like Columbine from happening ? Steve in so la

I always wondered about tragedies such as this and could not believe that if there was an all loving God why he would'nt stop them happening.However,has'nt he given us the power and knowledge to stop such tragedies ourselves?Most of the tragedies in the world are caused by our lust for power,self gain and greed.This in turn leads to a fundemental breakdown in society and in turn leads to tragedies like columbine.As a species we could solve all of the worlds problems at the drop of a hat but i'm afraid this means self sacrifice and mutual co-operation with everybody globally.
Did God not say love thy neighbour and ask us to love one another and show forgiveness to those who do wrong against us?
If we all lived by these teachings the world would be a fantastic place but i'm afraid greed,money and power are becoming the rules that most people live by now.
God does'nt cause these tragedies,we do,even though we have been shown the way to live peaceful productive lives by working together and respecting each other.God has given us all the tools we need to make the world a better place for ourselves but we choose to ignore them.

 

[Steve O]

The lust for power, self gain and greed started with the angle called Lucifer. He was jealous of God, thought he could be like God...how, when and why he thought that is beyond me.
He was allowed to rub elbows with man because spirit creatures had free will even before man was around. God new this could happen, He knows every scenario possible, on everything in existence, that's why He is said to be "all knowing".

God is not tyrannical, not a control freak, if He was, He wouldn't have given free will. He knew he had an angle who was turning. He could have done something...but He didn't because that would mean free will was not completely free and had "small print" so to speak.

It says His will, will be done. I don't believe He is actually controlling the outcome. He has given us the path. It is up to us to realize through trials and tribulations to figure this out. He knows, and He only knows, when it will eventually happen. Remember, time, for God, doesn't affect Him. He has given us what's needed to figure this out, and we can do this. He has given us an example, his only begotten son, to basically say "see you can do this, you can live in complete love.

If God manipulated every move we make, free will would be somewhat of a falsehood. If you think about it, free will was introduced to man when God put the Tree of Knowledge into the Garden of Eden. We had a choice, listen to God (as he hoped we would), or go the other way, a way that leads to destruction. Well, we took the long hard road and what you see today is the result.

I do have some issues with many things written in the Bible and/or the teachings of religious leaders. I'm on a quest to figure them out as I go through life. I think we all are trying to figure this out. Many of you have faith and can rely completely on it. The only faith I have is "I know there is a infinitely all powerful being we call God". I also think we don't really have a complete grasp on the written word. My gut tells me we are missing something, or, it could be me, I don't know.

 

[Nauti]

I don't think it is just you because I and many others feel the same as you do.I also believe that we may be missing something and like yourself I don't belief faith can be based on the written word and the teachings of others alone.Sometimes it is difficult to understand some of the things that go on in the world and I suppose we are all on a quest to find the answers.
I certainly believe that we all have the power within us to do good things which is our ultimate gift,but as you say we can either use this gift or ignore it.Looking at the world today it is easy to see that many have taken a darker path,totally ignorant of the guidance we have been given.
I do know this though,if mankind does'nt do something about the problems we are facing soon then we are in big trouble.God has given us all clear guidlines that if followed would allow us all to live productive,peaceful lives but we seem to have lost the common sense to follow them.We are letting ourselves and God down badly.

 

[Steve O]

It seems the more I learn on this subject, more questions come up that I can't find answers to. Some day, maybe.

 

[steve in so la]

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