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Sore arm

dirt lizard

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I took my CZ out for the first time this yr with the 10 1/2 in. coil for a woods hunt. After 2 hrs my arm was extremely sore and i had to leave. I noticed that this coil makes the CZ weigh close to almost 4 lbs. I think i'll just use it for when i hunt small parks and leave the 8 inch on.
 
I don't know if you have ever tried a detector harness. Some people dislike them and I did too with the couple of different ones I have tried in the past. I always felt like I was a dog tied up on a leash. I have a CZ70 which gives me pain after an hour or so. I recently saw an add for a new style harness called "Detecting Buddy" and it was relatively cheap(19.99) and looked like a different concept so I gave it a shot. It is easy to put on even over a heavy jacket and it is a one time adjust type of harness. You don't have to fiddle constantly with it and when adjusted properly, it feels like an extension of your arm. A simple, but super effective product.
 
I guess thats why it's body mountable, unfortunately even if you do its nose heavy with a large coil..

As far as these devices they basically take the weight off the small arm muscles and redirect the weight to the larger back muscles and well a sore arm is one thing but a bad back can put you in a wheel chair so use with caution. Never used your Buddy device but imagine the weight has to go somewhere and certainly may work for many but if you have back problems be advised....
 
That's one reason I stick with the 8'' coil on my CZ's. It seems the depth increase is very slight and were I hunt I don't need alot of coverage.
 
Since I hunt by tone and never look at the meter, I ended up mounting my CZ6a's and my CZ20 on straight shafts.

Here are pics of how I ended up mounting the control boxes. For the 6a's, I mounted one of the stock brackets from an old rod assembly, to the straight shaft. For the CZ20, I got some thick tin and cut it a tad bigger than the width of the area where the clip slides in. The tin bends up a bit and holds really tight in the slots. Works fine for me.

May not be the neatest fabrication, but I don't need neat...I need what works. Mounting them this way has them balanced very well and I can hunt all day with this configuration. I usually run 8 inch coils 95% of the time, even beach hunting. But when I put the 10.5 or Sunray FZ-12 on the CZ6a, it still is balanced well. I tried the hip mount way, but it was too tedious for me, and on several occasions I almost stepped on the cable, so I ended up going this route.
 
Not hard at all. Once GB is done, I go on my merry way. I hardly ever change the sensitivity, volume, always run in 0 discriminate mode and if the unit starts to act up, more than likely i have to re-ground. I do, and continue to hunt.

I have been using my CZ6a since I bought it back in 93//94. Still works like the day I got it. I am so used to the tones, I never look at the meter anymore. On the beach I dig everything but repeatable low tones, so its a pretty easy set up for me to run.

Pictures were posted to give guys another idea on how to mount a CZ to lighten the load a bit.
 
Get a chest harness buddy. You will love it.
 
You don't need a chest harness . You need to (adjust) shorten the length of the rod so that the coil is about 1 inch off the ground when your arm is straight down in front of you . Swing the coil right in front of your toes in a straight line...This is called a pendulum swing and takes the weight of heavy coils off of your joints. You will be able to hunt for hours without fatigue . I'm close to 70 and hunt with the CZ 21 with the 10 1/2 inch coil and the Garrett GTI 2500 and those are two heavy machines using this method.. Good luck... herb n surf (pi)
 
herb pi said:
You don't need a chest harness . You need to (adjust) shorten the length of the rod so that the coil is about 1 inch off the ground when your arm is straight down in front of you . Swing the coil right in front of your toes in a straight line...This is called a pendulum swing and takes the weight of heavy coils off of your joints. You will be able to hunt for hours without fatigue . I'm close to 70 and hunt with the CZ 21 with the 10 1/2 inch coil and the Garrett GTI 2500 and those are two heavy machines using this method.. Good luck... herb n surf (pi)

Spot on. This is the best way to hunt. My right shoulder has severe arthritis and this is the only way I can hunt. Just make sure you don't stoop. Stand up straight so you won't hurt your back.
 
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