some tesoro's hot and some not

[JJdigs]

So I have owned both the vaquero and tejon in the past. My vaquero was an animal with the 3 coils I had. The tejon did not impress me with depth in my very clean and mild dirt. Has anyone noticed if they got a really hot or weak machine before. I want to buy another tejon, however I don't want to get a weak one, I would be buying it used also. The thing is I'm torn between buying the tejon,vaquero which I have owned before or the new makro racer, which looks sick and the fisher 1270 has really been of great interest to me for the past years. Hmmm well there is enough snow here so I can make up my mind down the road. I really like to try the 5x10 coil on the V and T. As that is the only coil I have not tried yet. I mostly hunt old home sites and think this coil and the 5 3\4 would be the way to go.

 

[kimbershot]

i have the vaquero with 3 coils--stock, 5.75 concentric and 10x12 dd. the dd works best in low trash areas. the stock concentric--works great in most situations and is easy to pinpoint. the 5.75 concentric is terrific--great in trash, depth is very good. i am into relic hunting-not by choice but by geographics (SC)-not a lot of coins where i hunt. most of my finds are civil war related and are 9 inches or (most times way) less. i operate a lot in all metal and dig a lot of iron. thought about the tejon--but after reading more and more--pulled the vaquero plug. as far as other systems--didn't want to spend the extra $$.

one benefit of sc dirt--if something was dropped 150 years ago--unless the ground was disturbed--it's shallow.

 

[hatpin]

I have a Vaquero and have been pleased with the depth but it does not come close to the videos kaloinwasher posted of his machine .

 

[Rainyday101]

I have a Vaquero and have been pleased with the depth but it does not come close to the videos kaloinwasher posted of his machine .

Hatpin, when air testing a Vaq or Tejon use a faster swing speed on the coin. Also make sure the coin is on the bottom side of the coil and centered on the coil. Remember it is a concentric coil and deepest in the middle. Swing speed when testing can make 2-4" of difference. I was upset at first with my Tejon until I tried a faster swing speed, it made a big difference. Again being centered on the coil makes a big difference also. When I get faint targets, a faster swing speed over them brings them to life.

 

[oneton]

I would stay away from the racer for 6 months to see what others say about it. It may or may not be what you think, we know what the 1270 will do and even the tesoros.I am betting we will see many makros and fors for sale flooding the forums in the next 6 months.

 

[jld66]

i think that some depth claims on coins can be a bit exaggerated at times.not that people are meaning to be dishonest. just get a little carried away with their claim on how deep it actually was. i run my vaq with normal settings, not supertuned. the hits i got that were deep have been large. axe head, horseshoe, flat cans, license plate, large square washer. things like that. though i have never came across any real deep coins. it is kinda hard for me to believe that you can hit a dime at 14 inches. i think this chart is more realistic in most cases.

 

[Mega]

All makes of detectors are built to within a factory specification,of course some can be hotter than others but i am afraid no one can tell unless you buy one which was possibly a hot one out of a production run,as long as the whole batch fall within those factory specs thats all the makers are worried about.If you are a electronic whizz kid and have some equipment and the basic knowledge then of course anything can be tweaked up abit to make it hotter but few folks have that knowledge.

No one detector can do it all,of course one detector with a few coil variations is even better,but also depth is not everything in the detecting world but folks seem obsessed with it.

The bottom line it makes no odds what brand or how expensive or deep a detector is,its the 10'' of space between the ears that makes all the differance on how a detector performs and not the detector,its called operator skill and not i have the latest all singing all dancing flash looking detector that cost me a fortune but i will sell it in 6 months at a massive loss when the next must have detector comes out.

I stick with what works for me on my sites,if changing detectors is your thing and you can afford it then go for it.

 

[Rainyday101]

All makes of detectors are built to within a factory specification,of course some can be hotter than others but i am afraid no one can tell unless you buy one which was possibly a hot one out of a production run,as long as the whole batch fall within those factory specs thats all the makers are worried about.If you are a electronic whizz kid and have some equipment and the basic knowledge then of course anything can be tweaked up abit to make it hotter but few folks have that knowledge.

No one detector can do it all,of course one detector with a few coil variations is even better,but also depth is not everything in the detecting world but folks seem obsessed with it.

The bottom line it makes no odds what brand or how expensive or deep a detector is,its the 10'' of space between the ears that makes all the differance on how a detector performs and not the detector,its called operator skill and not i have the latest all singing all dancing flash looking detector that cost me a fortune but i will sell it in 6 months at a massive loss when the next must have detector comes out.

I stick with what works for me on my sites,if changing detectors is your thing and you can afford it then go for it.

VERY WELL SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[atomicscott]

Yep, I had the same thoughts when I had my Vaquero. I sent mine back to Tesoro after talking to a rep (Allcav on forums), & Rusty "retuned" the coil. That bumped my air tests up .5" or so, but I was still nowhere near the 13" many claim on a quarter. I was able to get about 9.5"-10" on a quarter air test. Neutral GB, disc at min and sens/thresh tuned to the edge of chatter. Sure, I could supertune & get 11" or so, but the chatter at those settings made it virtually unusable. I bought my Vaquero after watching many of these youtube videos, but could not get the same results with my particular Vaquero.

 

[Furious T]

My experience is that some machines of the same make and model may be "hotter" than others when they leave the factory, but as someone said above, how you would ever pick it until it is in your hands is beyond me.

Judging a machine by what others say about it may be helpful, or may be not so helpful. Unless we are standing beside the person making the claim and do the same test on the same ground conditions and with exactly the same EMI conditions (particularly for air testing), then we cannot possibly accurately compare tests.

Buying any machine (car, washing machine, television, metal detector) can be fruitful or frustrating, particularly if our "neighbour" has bought the same model (or even a different model) and is having more good fortune with his machine than we are with ours....even if there is nothing really wrong with ours....this can often come down to perception.

All we can do is buy what we think is the right machine for us, and, unless it is obviously not working properly, get the best out of it that we can.

If we are looking for more depth from a detector, and it has genuine "all metal" mode, the easiest way to get more depth is to switch from discriminate mode to all metal. So long as the detector is properly ground balanced, the difference will be significant. HH