some sort of hat plate?

[walrus]

This is eating away at me. I found this a few days ago in the area that i found a Maine militia belt plate which was dated between 1820-1830. At first i thought it was another buckle, but after cleaning it i thought maybe an old tractor emblem, or some sort of hat plate. I have been seeking help with the id everywhere i can, and spending hours upon hours searching the net. The red material on the front is leather, there is no lettering or numbers on it anywhere.

 

[walrus]

Also found this buckle very close by.

 

[osgood]

Cant help much with the ID, bur really those are two of the coolest looking relics Ive ever seen. I like the buckle has an artistic flair and flow to its design. I dont know why that other piece strikes me as something a lady would wear in her hair but 5inches seems too big for that, too big for jewelry too. Could have gone over a shoulder on a uniform? Great Finds! CO

 

[GoGoGopher]

I am thinking dashboard plate for a car on the first item...Any British Car enthusiasts???

HH,

 

[407floyd]

When you find out what it is, I'll finally know what my little crown was a part of.

 

[1859large]

It would be a shoe buckle and would date between 1700 and 1790. There are lots of resources online that would give you a closer date. A rule of thumb is that they got big before they went out of fashion around 1790. Big would be 3-4"wide. Small would be in the 1.5-2"range. Yours is quite distinct in its shape and should be easy to date within 10 years.

Nice. I cannot help with the crown thingy. Womens jewelery or militiary I don't know.

1859

 

[Carolina Phil]

It would be a shoe buckle and would date between 1700 and 1790.

I doubt that leather would survive 200 to 300 years in the elements. Just my opinion though.

 

[ACEinOZ]

It's a queen's crown like the one shown on British military badges during Queen Victoria's reign (1837 - 1901).