Some CTX questions for you pro's please:

[Tom_in_CA]

Hey gang, I've got a CTX 3030 on loan from a friend . Am putting it through some paces, comparisons, etc.... A few questions for you:

1) if the battery strength has progressed down to the last bar (but not on the ut-most lowest "red" bar setting yet), do you experience any lack of performance ? I can understand an eventual "lack of performance" when it's next to utterly drained. But what about the single bar reading? I'm guessing that since today's electronic's have resistors in them, that the performance will not vary from full-battery settings, even when lower battery. Right ?

So at what point do you begin to have performance issues, and what specific trait does the machine display, performance-wise, when the battery is super low?

2) While the 3030 has "rave reviews" about its target separation speed, yet......... are 3030 users willing to admit that this does not mean it's necessarily going to hold a candle to certain high frequency or 2-filter (tesoro types) in iron ridden environments? Ie.: "target separation" and "target averaging", or 2 separate things afterall, right ?

3) If I'm going to be using this 3030 in an iron-ridden blanket/carpet of nails, and assuming I've got the 6" coil on, what other setting changes would you do, to be able to eak out targets under nails ?

4) If any of you have had experience with the X-terra, using the high-frequency 6" coil on that. How would you compare the difference between THAT setup, versus the 3030, in iron-ridden environments ? How about versus the Deus? How about versus the blisstool ?

 

[oregon_dragonfly]

to answer question 1 they have l-ion batts., and you can run them to the last bar with full voltage they are not like ni-cads
#2 the machine can be programed to be as dumb or as sparky you want, but it takes time on the machine to understand it, there are other machines that are easer to use for those that don't want to mess with settings but not necessarily better
#3 I have my own decimation pattern and use ferris coin in that situation.
it is easier if you go into e-xchange to edit your programs and make changes to your patterns and tones, you will find that one guys program won't work every where so you will need to change with the area to keep it at it's max performance. dfly

 

[Jason in Enid]

1- There is ZERO loss in performance, period. The detector has full power available until the battery no longer has enough voltage and then it dies. Same performance from fresh off the charger to the minute it dies.

2- I know there are "faster" detectors like the DEUS, but I have hunted side-by-side with a DEUS user and had zero problems. I have never wanted to swing it like it was a golf club, but I have no problems. I swing as fast as I want. I have walked through my ghost town field whipping it back and both as I just try to get to a spot and still hit coins just fine. It does seem to false more with faster swings, but it only takes a few seconds to stop and re-swing the spot with a normal speed to check.

3- no change to pattern, if you aren't using the FE-Coin mode I would switch to that. Just slow your swing down a little bit when in heavy iron. If you are having solid "null" then slow down until its catching up between targets.

4- never personally used any of those machines.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

N/T

 

[trojdor]

Tom, everyone has given you good answers, but I'll just add my 2cents:

1. No. No. I think you mean voltage regulators, not resistors...but Yes.
Performance issues begin to appear when detector automatically shuts itself off.

2. Depends. In Fe-coin, multiple targets will appear on screen at same time. Numbers will usually average, but will look better on screen with Target Trace On. Takes a bit of getting used to, but it's cool. Also depends on your definition of 'hold a candle'. It works quite well, but doesn't have xray vision where iron is concerned. Nor do the others, really.

3. Fe-coin, open screen, fast on, either combined or 2 tone FE, target trace on, Auto sens (If you turn up the sens too high around iron...especially damp iron...you'll get too much falsing)

4. All three you mention are completely different detectors to the CTX, and to each other. If you need to be selective about what you dig, the CTX does extremely well. If you ascribe to the 'dig everything - find some' theory, the Blisstool is probably deepest. If you like to swing fast...like you're cutting weeds, the Deus will let you do that all day long. The HF detectors will all do a little better in iron, and find gold more easily...especially small stuff,BUT...deep silver can sometimes be a little trickier with HF. (and unlike what they'd have you believe, all that small stuff you'll dig isn't all gold...sometimes it's really annoying BB's, and 22 cal bullets, and tiny bits of junk that take you too long to find)

The right answer is to get all of them, of course, and maybe a few more for good measure.

One thing I will say, is that I don't agree with the description of the CTX as a 'just turn it on and go' detector. Sure, if you're hunting tot lots you'll find coins with the stock programs, but that's like taking the Ferrari down the block for some groceries.
It took me quite a bit of time (and lots of patience) with the CTX before the 'light came on'.

Good Luck and HH,
mike

Hey gang, I've got a CTX 3030 on loan from a friend . Am putting it through some paces, comparisons, etc.... A few questions for you:

1) if the battery strength has progressed down to the last bar (but not on the ut-most lowest "red" bar setting yet), do you experience any lack of performance ? I can understand an eventual "lack of performance" when it's next to utterly drained. But what about the single bar reading? I'm guessing that since today's electronics's have resistors in them, that the performance will not vary from full-battery settings, even when lower battery. Right ?

So at what point do you begin to have performance issues, and what specific trait does the machine display, performance-wise, when the battery is super low?

2) While the 3030 has "rave reviews" about its target separation speed, yet......... are 3030 users willing to admit that this does not mean it's necessarily going to hold a candle to certain high frequency or 2-filter (tesoro types) in iron ridden environments? Ie.: "target separation" and "target averaging", or 2 separate things after all, right ?

3) If I'm going to be using this 3030 in an iron-ridden blanket/carpet of nails, and assuming I've got the 6" coil on, what other setting changes would you do, to be able to eek out targets under nails ?

4) If any of you have had experience with the X-terra, using the high-frequency 6" coil on that. How would you compare the difference between THAT setup, versus the 3030, in iron-ridden environments ? How about versus the Deus? How about versus the blisstool ?

 

[jas415]

1. Like above posters, dead battery, dead machine, but no issue at all til the shutdown.

2. I think this depends on the user mostly. A guy with an F5 and a Tesoro usually grabs the F5 for really iron infested demolitions. He doesnt have a CTX. But, with my little bit of experience with the F75, Coinmaster 6000, and ATPro, and hunting with others using Teseros, I find the CTX does exceptionally well in correctly identifying deep coin targets with iron around. Especially with the small 6" coil and going exceptionally slow! Investigating almost every good tone, circle it, small sweeps, etc., and it will identify next to iron. more relating to 'user proficiency' in my opinion.

3. I use fe/coin, open screen, fast on, deep off, 4 bins, and enable seawater.and go slow!

Never even seen one used so I cant comment.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

n/t

 

[njmetaldetective]

When the battery dies down the screen will come on with a video of a big Silver hourse riding a big man who is wearing a black mask[.He will then yell Hi Hold Silver.