In California we have so many pull tabs of different age, the old style with the big round pull, then the ones with the flat tab,there are three different styles of this one, some with small rings . On the 705 they ring up from 10 to 28 which makes it very difficult to pin them down with out digging them and missing the gold. I have tried different methods of trying to eliminate digging but nothing seems to work every time. I go to AM and do the wiggle and that works some but not all the time, sometimes it sounds so solid i know it is a coin but no just another pull tab, any more ideas to over come this nagging problem?
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So many different pull tabs
- Thread starter Digger 45
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When hunting gold, particularly at the beach, I'd have to say no. I just resign myself to digging them, because if you don't you WILL miss gold. I especially hate broken off pulltab tails, even though I can call 'em 90% of the time, but they come in here right at 8 nice and solid so I can't bring myself to pass on 'em. And they're not something consistent enough to determine accurately. Beyond the different styles of tabs, people mangle them so many different ways that it's impossible to delineate them w/o risking missing the good stuff.
mapper65
Member
Although we all hate digging pull tabs we've found that they can help you date a site within a reasonable number of years. Pull tabs have gone through their generations just like anything else but sometime when you are bored out of your mind do some Google searching on the history pull tabs. You'll be surprised at what you can learn.
Pittsburgh Brewing Company was the home of the first pull tab which means in our area we often dig that first generation which I like to think of as the wheat penny of the pull tab. If you dig one of those you know that you are digging 1962 being that it was replaced just a year later with a different version.
Knowledge of pull tabs and a dollar will buy you a $1 burger at your local fast food joint but at least you can use that knowledge to help figure out the era that you are digging in. So next time you dig one of those pesky things at least you can hold it up and say "People were here in the mid 70's" or if you find a green Rolling Rock tab then you know that chances are good that you are going to be digging modern clad. That's not to say that there aren't some lost rings and things like that but chances are pretty good that you may not be digging an indian. There are always exceptions to the rules though.
Have fun!
Pittsburgh Brewing Company was the home of the first pull tab which means in our area we often dig that first generation which I like to think of as the wheat penny of the pull tab. If you dig one of those you know that you are digging 1962 being that it was replaced just a year later with a different version.
Knowledge of pull tabs and a dollar will buy you a $1 burger at your local fast food joint but at least you can use that knowledge to help figure out the era that you are digging in. So next time you dig one of those pesky things at least you can hold it up and say "People were here in the mid 70's" or if you find a green Rolling Rock tab then you know that chances are good that you are going to be digging modern clad. That's not to say that there aren't some lost rings and things like that but chances are pretty good that you may not be digging an indian. There are always exceptions to the rules though.
Have fun!
Yes at the beach i dig everything but at the parks its not at all common to dig 50 tabs in a three hour period, and all are good signals, i still dig them and i have found a lot of rings but getting old and the up and downs are getting harder to do. The beach is easy with a long handle scoop but then the soft sand takes its toll. But with all this they will have to carry me off before i will stop doing what we all love, finding that treasure!!
Mark in S.E. IA
New member
I'm sorry to say, the trick to finding gold rings is to dig EVERYTHING that beeps. Several years ago after the spring field hunts I decided that I was going to figure out how to find gold rings and I ended the year finding 13 gold rings. I learned that you have to dig everything that beeps and the location your hunting at. In my area beaches and sports fields is the best places to find gold rings.
mapper, that's a very good point you made in using things that we find to date a site, like pull tabs. I also use things like that to tell me at about what depth I should be finding older coins. If i am finding pull tabs at lets say 4" deep then I should be finding wheat's at 5" to 6 " deep. If I am finding clad at a good 6" deep,,,, I leave and find a better place to hunt, lol
mapper, that's a very good point you made in using things that we find to date a site, like pull tabs. I also use things like that to tell me at about what depth I should be finding older coins. If i am finding pull tabs at lets say 4" deep then I should be finding wheat's at 5" to 6 " deep. If I am finding clad at a good 6" deep,,,, I leave and find a better place to hunt, lol
atomicscott
Active member
The people who find the most gold dig the pulltabs. That is one reason good jewelry hunters are successful; they are willing to dig all the tabs, foil and other trash that most detectorists leave behind. Generally gold rings will be solid and jump from say 8-10 or 10-12. Pulltabs will sometimes jump that extra number like 10-12-14 (or 16), or 14-16-18 (or 20). On my XT 505 many of the older pull tabs will hit 12-15, then jump to a 21 at times. The new stay tabs will fool me and act like nickels more often though. If you aren't digging pulltabs and nickels, you very well may be passing up gold rings. My buddy found a small 10k gold ring with his 705 and it ID'ed 8-10. If looking for gold, I dig any solid signals (that don't bounce more than 2 numbers) from 6 up to 20. A very small earring may hit a 4 or less. Larger gold can actually go up into the zinc range (very rare of course). HHDigger 45 said:
atomicscott
Active member
Thanks Bob! That phot really is helpful. I did a similar test with 6 gold rings and found they hit anywhere from 3-21 on my XT 505, depending on the size and Karat.
Great advice here that anyone who wants to find gold rings should take to heart..
..You know once all the old silver is gone out of a place, all you got left is those trash targets that may be gold.
That said, I've tried many ways to figure out the signal pre-dig, from raising coil, to hitting PP button and raising coil, all sorts of methods to try to figure out the 'mass" of an object...nothing appears to work with certainty,
... If you read enough of the Forums, you will find a few guys that hunt gold with great success, with all sort of machines in various locations from the beach to totlots, and then you pattern your style after theirs with what will work in your area depending upon your sites...might be sportsfields, might be beaches, depending upon where you live...
one thing sort of interesting, akin to what Mapper65 said, turning your gold search into a thinking game, if you pull up the lost and found section of Craigslist and enter "ring" in the search box, it will give you an idea of where rings are NOW lost...not many at the beach or parks anymore, mostly in parking lots or inside bathrooms at a restaurant or something...to top it off, if somebody NOW loses a big expensive ring, they have the phone to call somebody and get them out quick to find it...so I think we will all be hunting for older gold that has been gone for a while from now on...
Mud.
..You know once all the old silver is gone out of a place, all you got left is those trash targets that may be gold.That said, I've tried many ways to figure out the signal pre-dig, from raising coil, to hitting PP button and raising coil, all sorts of methods to try to figure out the 'mass" of an object...nothing appears to work with certainty,
... If you read enough of the Forums, you will find a few guys that hunt gold with great success, with all sort of machines in various locations from the beach to totlots, and then you pattern your style after theirs with what will work in your area depending upon your sites...might be sportsfields, might be beaches, depending upon where you live...
one thing sort of interesting, akin to what Mapper65 said, turning your gold search into a thinking game, if you pull up the lost and found section of Craigslist and enter "ring" in the search box, it will give you an idea of where rings are NOW lost...not many at the beach or parks anymore, mostly in parking lots or inside bathrooms at a restaurant or something...to top it off, if somebody NOW loses a big expensive ring, they have the phone to call somebody and get them out quick to find it...so I think we will all be hunting for older gold that has been gone for a while from now on...
Mud.
That is some really good information. I dig the ones that jump from 8-10-12 when I first start, then get tired of them being all pull tabs or foil and quit digging them. Guess I'm passing up some possible rings by doing so. That's the great thing about this forum. Learn something every time I'm on here. Thanks.
This might not be good news. It might be another angle used by the arc's to keep us out of sites that we've had access to previously by declaring them "historic". Can you imagine getting cited for having a PT in possession?mapper65 said:
mapper65
Member
As far as "catching up to us" goes I meant that these archaeologists are behind on what some of us already do when it comes to dating a site by the pull tabs that we find.
Your point where they say "This means that even beverage-can pull tabs are eligible for protection under state and federal laws" made me laugh when I read that in the article because with some of these goofballs out there, who knows what could become of it. I see it possibly used as a technicality in a situation where they don't want those of us that detect to "disturb" history. If pull tabs are that critical to history then I'd consider myself the new Dr. Louis Leakey.
Your point where they say "This means that even beverage-can pull tabs are eligible for protection under state and federal laws" made me laugh when I read that in the article because with some of these goofballs out there, who knows what could become of it. I see it possibly used as a technicality in a situation where they don't want those of us that detect to "disturb" history. If pull tabs are that critical to history then I'd consider myself the new Dr. Louis Leakey.