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SO,, Is everyone likeing the new 6x8 SEF????
- Thread starter Derrelld
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I have only had a short time with it in my test garden. My previous small coil experience was with a 6" Excelerator. With the 8X6 SEF I was surprised with the detection depth. I have a wheat buried at 8". With the SE sensitivity at 20 it is a digable signal. Turned up to 24 and it's sounding very nice. Separation is very good. I have a wheat next to some iron and it picks up the wheat easily. I think the size is perfect with good coverage. I wouldn't go with anything smaller. This coil will do the job in heavy trash. You will not be disappointed with the purchase.
Mike B - IL
Member
Derrell, Tried my 6x8 SEF on Wed. at a lot that had the house torn down. There was a lot of junk in the ground but the coil worked well. Separation was good and I tried changing sensitivity to see how high I could run it.I got it up to 28 with only minor falsing. I dug a couple of wheats at approx. 6" and they were rock solid. I dug a Merc at 7" that was a no-doubt coin. So far I am liking the coil, but have limited time using it. HH
I have noticed that once I use a coil smaller than 8 inches, in the farm fields I hunt and many parks for that matter, I start loosing too much depth. Don't get me wrong, I love my excellerator 4x7 and my 6 inch excellerator and 5 sun ray, but they are not really pulling much below 6 inches and with corn stubble that might drop down to 4 inches. Awesome separation, but if your average targets are say at 7 or 8 inches and you are using smaller coils, you probably won't here them unless there is no other targets near them in clean ground, in which case they would have been easy to pick up with a Sun Ray 8 or the 11 inch pro.
I am definitely interested in this size 8x6 SEF of this particular coil because maybe it might get near the depth of my Sun Ray 8, one of my most favorite coils I own, and get slightly better separation because of it's narrower width of 6 inches. I am going to order one this week.
I personally disliked the SEF 10 x12. For me it was way too heavy for it's size (felt like I was swinging a 15 WOT) and did not get the depth or separation of my 11 Pro coils, so I just never saw any benefit of using it instead of the Pro coils. As far as I am concerned, you can never own too many different size coils as each different size or shape coil may just be a perfect fit for a specific area of any given site.
The only thing I would add to that is that some coils overlap each other in performance and size, for me the 10x12 SEF was an overlap of my pro11, so I felt kind of wasteful in the SEF purchase. That's the same with my SR 12 and Excellerator 10 x 14, having the Excelerator 10x14, I didn't really need a SR12 as I get better depth with the 10x14 and seem to get better separation. Same with the ML 8 and SR 8, my SR 8 got better depth, better separation and was lighter than the ML 8.
I finally got a 5x10 Coiltek coil last spring or the spring before and hated it, James in ND used it and was just smashing them with it on his EX1 or 2. On my SE's, anytime there was iron near, not under the coil, the machines would false high silver causing me to stop and investigate only to find out it was an iron false, not silver. This would happen constantly and drove me mad. I sent it back to Doc and he sent me a new one which gave the same results. It could be possible that 5x10 coil was tuned specifically for the EX 2 rather than the SE, I don't know, or maybe having the SE with fast on and that coil combined gave too much iron falsing, I never got to the bottom of that and I really wanted to because the size 5x10 seems really intriguing to me for sites with dense trash and also 8 inch average depth coins.
Then there is the last monkey wrench in the whole thing, in that some coils are not tuned perfectly and you might use them, not like them and put them on a shelf and wonder if the guys posting positive results about them are full of it or don't have a clue and the entire time, your coil could be bad
. That's why I own two SE's, so if something is queer, I can kind of pinpoint it before I waste several days thinking my machine is wacked.
I am definitely interested in this size 8x6 SEF of this particular coil because maybe it might get near the depth of my Sun Ray 8, one of my most favorite coils I own, and get slightly better separation because of it's narrower width of 6 inches. I am going to order one this week.
I personally disliked the SEF 10 x12. For me it was way too heavy for it's size (felt like I was swinging a 15 WOT) and did not get the depth or separation of my 11 Pro coils, so I just never saw any benefit of using it instead of the Pro coils. As far as I am concerned, you can never own too many different size coils as each different size or shape coil may just be a perfect fit for a specific area of any given site.
The only thing I would add to that is that some coils overlap each other in performance and size, for me the 10x12 SEF was an overlap of my pro11, so I felt kind of wasteful in the SEF purchase. That's the same with my SR 12 and Excellerator 10 x 14, having the Excelerator 10x14, I didn't really need a SR12 as I get better depth with the 10x14 and seem to get better separation. Same with the ML 8 and SR 8, my SR 8 got better depth, better separation and was lighter than the ML 8.
I finally got a 5x10 Coiltek coil last spring or the spring before and hated it, James in ND used it and was just smashing them with it on his EX1 or 2. On my SE's, anytime there was iron near, not under the coil, the machines would false high silver causing me to stop and investigate only to find out it was an iron false, not silver. This would happen constantly and drove me mad. I sent it back to Doc and he sent me a new one which gave the same results. It could be possible that 5x10 coil was tuned specifically for the EX 2 rather than the SE, I don't know, or maybe having the SE with fast on and that coil combined gave too much iron falsing, I never got to the bottom of that and I really wanted to because the size 5x10 seems really intriguing to me for sites with dense trash and also 8 inch average depth coins.
Then there is the last monkey wrench in the whole thing, in that some coils are not tuned perfectly and you might use them, not like them and put them on a shelf and wonder if the guys posting positive results about them are full of it or don't have a clue and the entire time, your coil could be bad
. That's why I own two SE's, so if something is queer, I can kind of pinpoint it before I waste several days thinking my machine is wacked.Thanks Mike!! And thanks Digitrich!!! I hope when you get it, it works great for you! Your are defintiely right about one thing, The SR 8 inch is bad boy!!!! One question,, What do you run your sensitivity at with the SR8??? I can seem to get over 22 without it going crazy!
Believe it or not, most of my success has been running it in auto sensitivity, 27. The only coil that I own that runs quiet at high manual sensitivity is the ML Pro 11, for some reason I can run them (I have three), at 30-32 manual and it stays as quiet as a church mouse. Wish ML would get to making more coils in different sizes based on their PRO 11 technology.
dougmanning
New member
Derrelld , Here in Wilmigton N.C. I can run my sen, at 30 with smooth theashold! SUNRAY 8'' IS A GREAT COIL! my EXPLORE QUIT WORKING ) HAD TO SEND IT IN FOR REPAIR, WISH I HAD A SPARE! MAY BE I WILL START LOOKING!! DOUG
Most sites it, the SR8, starts to chatter around 21-22 manual. Site specific kind of thing. Some sites I can push it more. Or at certain times, like at 2 am in the morning because of less load on power lines or less radiation from the sun, who knows why, but I can tell a difference at certain times. I have found my best finds with a energizer head lamp strapped to my noggin, for sure.