Took four machines to the beach. There was snow all the way to the water. CZ-21, Excal, AT Pro and ETrac. I have video but im new to it. almost got the edit done. Short and sweat the ETrac and EXcal didn't do squat. I'm not new to the hobby and have many hours on the ET. I expected more. Same from the Excal.....nada. Bless the users who can do well with them. King of the day was the CZ hands down. AT was right there although has some issues. Video and more to come.