small us buckle

[Richard Crawford]

This buckle is 1 3/4 inches round with US on face . The question is what was it used on ? One side is designed for a belt attachment,the other side has round brass pin type connection ? Maybe for blanket Roll?
If anyone has any information on exact ID ?
Please email : Richard Crawford relics7772001@yahoo.com

Thanks , Richard Crawford

 

[bradgtr1]

Looks like half of an early US artillery waist buckle...
guys?

bc

 

[Richard Crawford]

I haven't found another half at the camp , but I know it's been hunted hard by several detecting clubs per the owner of the property.
Do you know if the other half is "just" like this side ? If so ? I have a Explorer that I copy and store half and just look for the other half "if it's still in there ".? Would you have info., were a picture can be obtained ? Books maybe ......

Thanks for response, Richard

 

[FrontierWest]

n/t

 

[Richard Crawford]

Thanks to all that Responed today and the forum .
Richard

 

[SoArk]

Richard,

It appears to be a Waist Belt Plate, Regulation 1834 Pattern, Infantry NCO, ca. 1834-1839. This half would have had an S-link brass wire connector to another disc that had an eagle on its face.

During the fall of 1833, the Colonel of the 5th U.S. Infantry asked how many of his NCO's were supposed to receive the new swords and belts. Colonel Bomford of the Ordnance Dept. replied, "The number of (NCO) swords authorized to a Regiment of Infantry, is 54, viz. for one Sergeant Major, two principal Musicians, thirty company sergeants, and twenty comapny musicians."

Now, I certainly didn't compose this off the top of my head. The buckle is pictured on page 168, plate #248 of O'Donnell and Campbell's "American Military Belt Plates." Courtesy of a George Kegerreis. ( I assume the owner?)

My wife gave me the book for Christmas a couple of years ago, bought from David Keith.

Take care,

Kim

 

[gcollins]

What a great find!! Good luck on hunting the rest of the camp!!

H.H.
Greg Collins

 

[Richard Crawford]

Kim ,


Thank you for your reply on info. ID on disc. Seems I have my work cut out on "possibly" finding the eagle half.
I thought this campsite was used only from 1861-1863 civil war times , but was also used pre-civil war as " per dates " indicated from buckle research. I'm learning that never assume the sites may have also been used earlier also.
Note: found this half around a 200 year old oak tree . Aim going to circle the area again with my Explorer xs for the eagle side of the buckle. I going to get the book as well, as son as my wife agrees to the historical value of research .
Thanks to Forum that makes this happen and Minelab

 

[Anonymous]

Hopefully, you can find the missing half. A very good book to start with that covers many pre civil war, civil war and some post war belt plates is by Kirksis. It is listed (along with many more) in our Books/CDs web page. It is a good book with a great many pictures. Good hunting, David@Dixie

 

[Richard Crawford]

Thanks , I'm going for the other half soon ... But have a few questions , could use your opinions on threshold noise factors on this site .
Problem is there is alot of Iron,nails in the area . Aim using Explorer xs , can I edit the iron area as rejected on the machine and therefore not have all the noise factors when operating . It would be good trade for non-ferrous target . I think this would be a good start anyway . Ive used Whites , Garrett ,Minelab on this site . Also been thing of Tesoro machines as they are being stated as good in iron infested areas such as camps.

Thank you on Info. on Buckle Book ...Also have you seen my post on the 31/2 inche brass buckle {posted picture} please take a look an give your oppinion . Buckle marked with Anchor . {Navy or Marine}
Later , Richard

 

[SoArk]

Richard,

It probably ain't connected to your buckle, but? I have a pair of spurs that I found in an old falling down barn/shed. A can of motor oil had leaked over them as the bldg rotted down. The spurs are marked with an anchor symbol..... near as I can tell (at least on the spurs) the anchor was used by North and Judd Mfg Co. and the spurs are post CW. I don't know if the same would apply to your buckle though.... it looks old..... 1830's to 1860's.

Take care,

Kim

 

[DGGR/NY]

Dig all iffy signals bro! just keep working it