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Six unknown targets... five detectors... V3; E-TRAC; SovereignGT; Tejon; T2...

J

jbow

Active member
I hope this is not confusing. It is totally non scientific and uncontrolled, it is what it is.
If the ET numbers are, for example, 11-12/ 42-45 the 11-12 is the ferrous range and the 42-45 is the conductive range of numbers. On a few I checked with the V3 using both the 10" DD and the 4x6 coil. I was using the 11" Pro coil on the E-TRAC, an 8" Coinsearch on the SovereignGT, a 5.75 DD on the Tejon, and a 4.75 on the T2. I was running the V3 in "coin and jewelry". I had to lower the RX gain to 3 but could leave the AM and disc gains on 55 and 88. On the dime I tried raising the RX to 6, it was still iffy and due to all the other chirps and twitters I was hearing from the V3 I would have missed it had I not known it was there. I need some ideas to help with this!

So...

#1 ... ET read 11-04.. foil; Sovereign didn't hit; V3 didn't hit; Tejon was "iffy"; T2 read 44-50... foil. Target was foil.

#2 ... ET read 12-17/18; Sovereign read 158-160; V3 read +17 to +25 with the 10" DD and +17 to +23 with the 4x6; Tejon read slightly above a nickel; T2 read 57/58. Target was a small brass key.

#3... ET read 12-31/33; Sovereign read 173; V3 w/10" read +49/+50 on both coils; Tejon read in the roundtab/bullet range; T2 read 73. (All these readings could have been a minnie, especially the Sovereign). Target was a corroded zinc penny, twice cut with a lawnmower.

#4... ET read 12/14-43/44; Sovereign read 180; V3 read +75 on both coils; Tejon read coin; T2 read 81/82. Target was a bronze memorial cent.

#5... ET read 7/9-7/12; Sovereign read 134 to 157; V3 read all over -30 to +19; Tejon read in the round tab range; T2 read 59-60 (squaretab or button, possible brass). Target was a cable TV connector end.

#6... ET read X/33-34 (ferrous number jumped all over); Sovereign read 173-175; V3 read +50; Tejon read junk; T2 read 59-60. Target was a crescent moon shaped piece of thin aluminum about 3" long and 1/2" at the widest place.


The only good target I found was a 1940 mercury dime. I found it with the E-TRAC and then checked it with the V3. I would never have dug it with the V3. I was using coin and jewelry mode and could not get a good read on it. If I had not known it was there I would not have stopped on it. The V3 was getting some chatter from EMI that was not affecting the ET at all. The dime was about 6" down. I had the E-TRAC set on ferrous, two tone, relic pattern, auto+3, deep on, fast on, difficult ground, low trash.

I'll be trying some more comparisons over the weekend if you have any ideas for me to try. I wish I had thought to try "deep silver" on the dime but I didn't. In any case I usually hunt in "Coin and jewelry" and I try "Hi Pro" a little. The analize screen in Hi Pro confuses me.

Julien
 
First, a simple question. You said, The analyze screen in Hi Pro confuses me. How does it confuse you? Rob
 
The markers are all over the place. In Coin and Jewelry the markers for the three lines are more soild, not completely.. but in Hi Pro they seem to be everywhere. I can probably tweak this but I don't know how, nor have I learned how to change the colors. I don't understand why there isn't a uniformity of colorscheme throughout... but that just me I guess.

Julien
 
The person that made the HiPro program likes different colors than most the other programs had. And it also lets people know that colors can be modified... If you really want to try it out and change colors to what you want,
Select the program you want to change colors on...
then
expert menu/configure/color theme = setup
then
expert menu/configure/Live Search screen/Graphic Box/Color/Signals and then adjust the colors on the individual frequencies...
 
Have you tried adjusting the frequency offset to minimize the EMI noise? No guarantee that it will work for you, but it does for many.
 
Having to run the gain and sensitivity that low I would not expect much of the v3. could you raise it any with the small coil? The DD seems to me to have more trouble with interferance than some of the other coils.

Jason
 
Ive also found turning the filters down to 5 with a slow sweep speed gains depth.
 
n/t
 
I have tried it but I forgot to try it at that site. If I go back I will. Thanks!

Julien
 
I usually can but I was hot and it was all I could do just hunting that small area with all the detectors and writing down the results. I usually have to run my RX gain at 5 or lower. I got out today for a couple of hours at a completely different site and was able to run the RX gain at 6 with the disc sens on 90. I was trying to learn the numbers better. At least I learned that a zinc penny is 53/54... the ground here eats zinc pennies.

J
 
I usually run the filter on 5khz high. I swing slow anyway, especially in trash.

I think I had a combination problem of EMI and mineralized ground. It usually runs a little better than it did there. I will find another place to do it again.

There is an old churchyard down the road that I have not hunted but I stopped and met the pastor the other day. Maybe there will be some targets there to compare... or I can got to the sports complex down the road. I will do more somewhere else.

J
 
jbow said:
I usually can but I was hot and it was all I could do just hunting that small area with all the detectors and writing down the results. I usually have to run my RX gain at 5 or lower. I got out today for a couple of hours at a completely different site and was able to run the RX gain at 6 with the disc sens on 90. I was trying to learn the numbers better. At least I learned that a zinc penny is 53/54... the ground here eats zinc pennies.

J
Click to expand...

Seems you have some bad ground I can usually run RX at 10 or better on my v3 alot of times up to 15 in my area. Seems the ground is not a problem here but electric interference is. Good luck and let us know your results. I use to have a Etrac but sold it.
Jason
 
Elton, I will check tomorrow. I usually dont pay a lot of attention to depth if it is under 6 or 7 inches. The ground is really hard here and frankly I don't find much stuff that is deep. Most minnies and buttons are under 6". Most coins are the same.

I will try the churchyard and the park down the road to see if I can hit some deeper coins and also see how hot I can run it. The park has underground utilities for the ballfield lights though... There is an old firetower site down the road that I have not hunted, the tower was torn down years ago. Maybe there will be something there. I can walk to it, I live on Firetower Rd... I'll find somewhere with something deeper so I can check it out.

I want to know more about the Omega 8000. If I am understanding it correctly... it is like a T2 but really quiet and stable. That sounds good to me. That is what I like about the Sovereign and the Tejon... they are both quiet in iron and bad ground. I just don't want to pay 600 bucks for one... maybe someone will be selling a used one soon.

Julien
 
I was hunting right under a power line and when I went to the single high freq. I was able to still run fairly high settings. Pulled a mining token, flat buttons and an eagle button out of the worst trash like a homesite dump and pretty bad ground. There was burnt coal and unburnt coal and I could still find stuff with almost no time on the V3. I think it is a great machine so don't give up. Under the right conditions I have dug minnie balls at a measured 14" and am digging tons of small brass items like percussion caps and shotgun shells that I did not dig with my explorer. I just know if there is a gold coin out there especially small one dollar ones that may have been missed this detector will find it.
 
n/t
 
This fine Lady is just sooooooooooo helpful.. I certainly appreciate all your time, and good advice...

[size=x-large]THANK YOU[/size]
 
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