Can I ask you a question? If my old SS2 is using the ED 120 discrim, what system of discrim is my Hawkeye / Deleon using ... AND if I set my discrim level to zero on the Hawkeye, will this be the same level of discrim as setting my SS2 discrim to zero <img src="/metal/html/confused.gif" border=0 width=15 height=22 alt=":?"> Here's the deal! On my SS2 I used to run the discrim at Zero. This was plenty good enough for most of the sites I have. On my Hawkeye, I set the discrim to 'IRON' although you can set it lower than this if you want, but the manual suggests you turn it up to the iron setting. I was just wondering if this was too high if it's the same ED discrim on both machines <img src="/metal/html/confused.gif" border=0 width=15 height=22 alt=":?"> the thing is, over here in England we have many desirable targets that are very small in size, and low conductors! I would hate to think I was missing this stuff because my discrim was too high ( at the iron setting).