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Silver Umax Question

pine3874

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The Tesoro Silver Umax has a silent search all metal mode which means that the detector has to be in motion to get a signal the way I understand it. What is the point of having a motion all metal mode? If I leave my discrimination at the lowest setting, isn't that the same thing? With a motion all metal mode it would seem that it would also be no easier to pinpoint than in the discrimination mode. Could someone please help me understand this. Thanks
 
I believe on the Silver, switching to 'all metal' from the discrimination mode set at its minimum setting is the same thing. It's just faster to get to all metal (minimum discrimination setting) with the switch than turn the dial from a discrimination setting you might have previously dialed in.

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Not sure about the Silver specifically, but some detectors are designed so that 0 discrimination still passes over small iron etc. One needs to go into the all metal mode to get full acceptance of all metal targets I know that when I had my Compadre it would signal on the small nail head in my flooring, but when I added a Silver Sabre
 
A full 180 ED at the min. disc should pick up iron. A 120 ED at min. disc the iron should be either choppy or almost disc'ed out.
 
Believe me, if you put it in the a/m mode you will be digging nails. Small pieces of iron wire WILL break up a little. You can tell some of the smaller nails by the slight skip in the audio, but believe me the a/m mode is closer to true a/m than min. disc. On the bright side, it is also DEEPER. I found a gold ring while in a/m mode at a tot lot and when I rechecked it in min. disc. I noticed the scan width wasn't as wide as with a//m mode. It is a good relic hunter because of it's reaction to small iron particles. I also had a CZ-5 and picked up a deep ring and the Silver umax picked it up in the a/m mode, albeit a faint signal..
 
It just shows that if you don't want to miss ANYTHING, hunt in all metal if you have the ambition and patience.
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The main reason I use AM Mode (with my El Dorado) is for checking those bigger targets or broken targets, because in Disc Mode it sounds like one big target but when I go to AM mode it might have small gaps in the beeps letting me know there is possible more then 1 target I'm looking at, or I can trace the target and see its actual size without any gaps and determine if I want to dig it or not from that point forward.

The reason I say this is because on many occasions had I just went by Disc Mode I would have not dug target becuase it was either a little choppy or I would have just passed it off as a can seeing how it was beeping like a big target in Disc mode, but with those small gaps in sound in AM Mode I thought I should dig it up only to find a Coin next to trash or a Coin Spill spread closely apart, or some other good target closely by a bad target.

I'm not going to say dig everything (because I'm not a public trashman) and most people do this as an enjoyable hobby and not to try to be Gonzalo Pizarro. It's a good policy to use the AM Mode to check iffy targets, it will make you a more efficient hunter and make the hobby more enjoyable with less stress of finding alot of trash when your first starting out with the hobby.
 
Johnywayne makes a very good point that I mentioned in a post several years back. If one hunts alot in all metal mode and digs all or most of the targets, you'll end up retrieving a fair number of goodies that were masked and would have been missed using discrimination. Tesoros do a pretty fair job of picking up good targets close to junk, but the closer to the junk the more likely the good target will be missed when using even a moderate amount of discrimination.
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