Silver coins better vaquero or at pro? Anyone have both?

[MonsterTab]

Just curious for deeper silver which would be better? The vaquero is plenty deep enough, but sometimes silver coins seem to sound and discriminate a little different deeper. At pro having the depth reading made me think you would have a better guess on if it was worth digging due to depth. Thanks.

 

[BarberBill]

Trouble is, on the whole, TID detectors aren't all that accurate at depth if they give a reading at all. IMHO you're describing a "dig it all" scenario.
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[MonsterTab]

On a coin its hard to decipher with a vaquero. Lifting the coil helps but deciding if this is 6 inches where a coin would ring true or 8 inches where it might sound scratchy is a hard decipher.

If the vid gave a lower reading but above iron and showed depth 7+ it would help decide if this is worth digging as any beep above iron would be worth checking out.

Everything I speak of about VID is theory or second hand knowledge, as I only have the vaq.

Does depth readings and VID help none on deciding what deep signals are worth going for?


With the vaquero I dig all signals above iron that has a good sound to it. Some coins I have been fortunate to find were deeper and the sound wasn't something I'd normally dig. However, I would always dig those, if I knew that hit was coming from 8" down. 8" coin sometimes sounds like 6" trash.

 

[BarberBill]

Okay, I see where you're coming from. I have too many detectors including several with displays. I've never used the display in quite the way you are thinking, but have found it helpful separating trash from likely coins when deciding to dig in well kept grassy areas. I don't normally pay much attention to the depth read out because if I get a solid coin reading, I will retrieve the target regardless of depth. As I mentioned above, depths below 6 - 8 inches the display may not be accurate as to the depth reading or the coin versus trash indication.
On my Vaq and other beep and dig detectors, I have found that with a bit of practice, thumbing the discrimination gives me nearly as good an indication of coin versus trash as the display, just takes a bit longer. Only problem, it's common for many detectors to lose a bit of depth at full discrimination which is not a help when trying to decide on a deep target which puts us back into all metal which just tells us the target is metal.
In my experience I haven't seen any method that is totally reliable to avoid digging some trash. You mention digging on a sound you wouldn't normally dig. I've retrieved a fair number of good targets that just didn't fit either what I'd call my normal solid good sound, nor did they quite match my normal trash sound. I've become a believer in dig any sound you wonder about as it's the only way to know for sure. You'll end up with more trash, but you'll end up with a few more desirable targets as well. As someone has mentioned, "the only sure discrimination is a shovel".
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[SpiritRelic]

The vaquero goes deep.But what makes it so difficult is it is a non modulated signal.You can get a little better modulated signal by not supertunning.All you can do with the vaquero for deep silver is lift the coil.If a good smooth signal cuts out on a one inch or so lift of the coil you got a good chance it is a deep coin.Cut the threshold to a light steady tone to see if this gives you a more of a modulated signal.The tejon has a vco mode switch which is the mode that helps in this department.Voltage controlled occilater,meaning the closer to the target the louder the signal.I know exactly what you mean about deep targets sounding like they are just a few inches deep with the vaquero.With practice you can get better.

 

[Nauti]

Barber Bill is right....the only real discriminator is the shovel.Visual displays are not accurate enough to give you a 100% correct identification under any circumstances.Different variables including soil composition,emi etc affect the detectors ability to identify any metal with total accuracy.Like you yourself say......dig anything that is not iron......this is not much help in a park loaded with aluminium ring pulls but it is the only way to be sure.....just hard work.

 

[MonsterTab]

Understood. Yeah I dig a ton of trash because I can't help but wondering "what did I skip?"

I was curious about the at pro because some of the ones I do skip are signals where I can only get a beep one direction, and a broken signal or silence on the way back. If I knew the depth of these broken signals was 8" down I would dig them anyway cause maybe its a deep coin on edge. So was looking to see if a VDI would be helpful for deciphering these.

Thanks for the responses.

 

[sparkster]

If you are using a VDI machine with tone ID also such as the AT Pro, it becomes a much simpler task. I always rely on tone then
Verify with VID. After over 1000 hours with the Pro I play a guessing game with myself and try to guess what the target is before
I dig it. I'm right about 90 per cent of the time now.

About a month ago I got a sweet tone with a 58 VID. That is not something I hear or see very often, so of course I dug it. About
2 inches down I pull out a nice hunkin mans gold wedding band, 14k and 9.6 grams. Yeah baby, gotta love a hobby that pays for itself.
That right there was the down payment on my CTX 3030 sports fans.. It arrived last Wednesday. I have paid for a MXT, DFX, ExcaliburII
Gold bug II, AT Pro and half of my CTX3030 with finds from detecting over the last 3.5 years. Not many silver coins, but a boat load of
Clad, rings and jewelry. With the CTX I hope my silvers go way

In honest reality the real thrill is in the hunt. Getting outbwith good friends, great places, beautiful weather and unbelievable sights and
Experiences.

Happy hunting and good luck all you dirt fishermen.