using the standard gold bug , with the 5" coil in all metal 75 sens, 12 threshold i got a soft reapeatable signal and down over 15" came up this fine jar lid , i also found a 2"x2" chunk of a stove down 12" very good signal and a cut nails at 8" boy this thing is deep , i used to think that 19khz could not get down in the ground but i think its more that it rezinates with certan metals mor that others, kinda like when you hit a C on the piano you will find all the other C notes will beging to resinate without being struck and yet the note next to the C will not ring at all and i think in a similar way thats why it will not hit deep on silver 19khz just does not resinate with silver well just a thought