Silent search with thresh hold, Iron mask off.

[JASONSPAZ1]

I thought I read somewhere that there are some tricks to use with the Sovereign GT that include hunting in Silent search while forcing a thresh hold. And what about iron mask off. Some say it allows a faster reset in between the nulling. In what situations should one explore these tricks. I notice that my S-1 probe appears to go deeper if a force a thresh hold in silent search.

Thanks in advance
Jason

 

[bootyhoundpa]

there is a site i hunt on a regular basis in a farm feild.... ive been to this place many many times......i started out hunting it with standard 10 inch coil and eventually i hunted it most often with the 15 inch wot...eventually i tried a 5 inch coil.... i always hunted in iron mask,disc at 0,sensetivity at 12 oclock-ish....and thru my many visits to this site i found many flat buttons,a few large cents,lots of trash,lots of iron as well,even whole horse shoes....as you can imagine every time i went back it was harder and harder to find targets......... the last 2 times i went there i tried different settings.....with the 5 inch coil and iron mask off,sensetivity at 2 oclock ,volume just a shade under 3 oclock ,disc at 0, with these settings i was able to find 10 coins i had previously missed many times over .... most of these coins were only 2 or 3 inches deep but they were in a trashier part of the field.... unfortunatly only 2 of them were old-1937 wheaty and 1906 barber dime..... the other amazing thing to me is that with iron mask off i actually dug alot less iron than when i have iron mask on.... i guess the point im trying to make is if you are hunting a spot and targets are getting thin,dont be afraid to tinker with your settings.you just might learn something new-i did....

 

[Critterhunter]

You will dig more iron with iron mask ON because it will try to sound off to targets in iron more, which means you'll also get some false hits. I've read that if you use silent search mode you can speed up your swing a bit. I prefer a threshold to notice changes in it. A while back there was discussion on whether turning on silent search and then raising the threshold to where you can just hear it again might act as a sort of signal boost and make deep targets sound off better. Far as I know nobody has tested that on targets to see if it's true.

Haven't read about iron mask off doing faster resets. Only thing I've read people using it for was in really rough ground in order to smooth the machine out more.

 

[deepdiger60]

Hi Jason here is a silent seach mode i use it works great in really trashy area,s and goes deep and you elimiate all that noise ,but when you hit a good target you will hear it !!! HH Jim

 

[Neil]

Hi Jason here is a silent seach mode i use it works great in really trashy area,s and goes deep and you elimiate all that noise ,but when you hit a good target you will hear it !!! HH Jim

anytime you eliminate all that noise your eliminating the finding of some targets also. discrimination in any manner is gonna cause more masking. its a trade off, you can still find targets and targets deep, but your also filtering out alot of good signals with the bad. thats the reality of it while we may like it or not.

 

[deepdiger60]

Hi Jason here is a silent seach mode i use it works great in really trashy area,s and goes deep and you elimiate all that noise ,but when you hit a good target you will hear it !!! HH Jim

anytime you eliminate all that noise your eliminating the finding of some targets also. discrimination in any manner is gonna cause more masking. its a trade off, you can still find targets and targets deep, but your also filtering out alot of good signals with the bad. thats the reality of it while we may like it or not.

Hey Neil i always found in a plowed field unlike a non dug medow in the plowed field you really dont miss much even in silent mode shallow or deep because the targets are still in clumps of soil , on a beach your statement holds more true .Jim

 

[Ism]

I don't think silent search is anything more than an attenuation gimic. Similar to a squelch switch on radios back in the day.

 

[deepdiger60]

I don't think silent search is anything more than an attenuation gimic. Similar to a squelch switch on radios back in the day.

Ism i wear black widow HP and after 40 minutes to a hour of hearing the threshold sound or that iron null sound it,s nice to hit that silent switch and walk 20 mintes in those fields or beaches then when you hit a good target it really wakes me up , so sometimes that switch comes in handy if anything . Jim

 

[Rick(ND)]

I was not one that felt silent search did any good at all and was just for those that are used to a silent search detector. I found silent search didn't get the depth you can get with the threshold, you don't know if you are swinging too fast for the conditions and missed a lot of good targets that you couldn't hear the tone change on.
Now with the GT and the switch they put on so you can switch to silent search and back again I have found some use for silent search. Many sites the targets are far and few and it seems like the threshold seems to stay at that low tone growl of iron as it seems to always be seeing the iron most everywhere. This tone gets old after a while and by switching to silent search until you start finding good signal is a good use for it. I have used mine very little and will switch back to a threshold when a few good targets start sounding off so i can hear everything and get the deep ones that many times will not break though in silent search or close to trash and you don't hear the tone change.

 

[Neil]

Hi Jason here is a silent seach mode i use it works great in really trashy area,s and goes deep and you elimiate all that noise ,but when you hit a good target you will hear it !!! HH Jim

anytime you eliminate all that noise your eliminating the finding of some targets also. discrimination in any manner is gonna cause more masking. its a trade off, you can still find targets and targets deep, but your also filtering out alot of good signals with the bad. thats the reality of it while we may like it or not.

Hey Neil i always found in a plowed field unlike a non dug medow in the plowed field you really dont miss much even in silent mode shallow or deep because the targets are still in clumps of soil , on a beach your statement holds more true .Jim

Hey Jim the threshold dropping out is telling you that youve crossed a disced out target, so in silent search how would you know you have even gone over anything that is disced or masked out. That is one of the benefits of the Sov, that telltale on the threshold. If your not hearing it how would you know?
On reference to your next post on this thread, Ive hunted and still hunt the Minelabs so long that the threshold is no bother at all. A silent search machine is more unnerving to me.
I think MInelab put that silent switch on just to help people coming from silent search detectors, since its more comfortable than having a threshold to them.
As Rick stated its good for relief if the threshold bothers you, but your not improving, your more hindering your hunts with silent search on.
Whether on the beach or in a field, knowing a target is under your coil is always a benefit isnt it?

 

[deepdiger60]

Hi Jason here is a silent seach mode i use it works great in really trashy area,s and goes deep and you elimiate all that noise ,but when you hit a good target you will hear it !!! HH Jim

anytime you eliminate all that noise your eliminating the finding of some targets also. discrimination in any manner is gonna cause more masking. its a trade off, you can still find targets and targets deep, but your also filtering out alot of good signals with the bad. thats the reality of it while we may like it or not.

Hey Neil i always found in a plowed field unlike a non dug medow in the plowed field you really dont miss much even in silent mode shallow or deep because the targets are still in clumps of soil , on a beach your statement holds more true .Jim

Hey Jim the threshold dropping out is telling you that youve crossed a disced out target, so in silent search how would you know you have even gone over anything that is disced or masked out. That is one of the benefits of the Sov, that telltale on the threshold. If your not hearing it how would you know?
On reference to your next post on this thread, Ive hunted and still hunt the Minelabs so long that the threshold is no bother at all. A silent search machine is more unnerving to me.
I think MInelab put that silent switch on just to help people coming from silent search detectors, since its more comfortable than having a threshold to them.
As Rick stated its good for relief if the threshold bothers you, but your not improving, your more hindering your hunts with silent search on.
Whether on the beach or in a field, knowing a target is under your coil is always a benefit isnt it?

I understand what all are saying the only time i use silent search is to give my ears a break when iam in a field all day , the thing that bugs me is when i have a good smooth threshold and i pass over iron i get that null sound thats normal ok but the GT will not give a threshold sound back until it hits a good target again even a very low deep peep ? what i need to do is investagate that peep more instead of passing it by?? learn learn learn , thanks guys this isnt even my post and i just learned something Jim

 

[Jack Flynn]

Quote I understand what all are saying the only time i use silent search is to give my ears a break when iam in a field all day , the thing that bugs me is when i have a good smooth threshold and i pass over iron i get that null sound thats normal ok but the GT will not give a threshold sound back until it hits a good target again even a very low deep peep ? what i need to do is investagate that peep more instead of passing it by?? learn learn learn , thanks guys this isnt even my post and i just learned something

When you hit a nulled out spot and you hear the low growl after the null that is the threshold. Your last sentence is the secret to this machine. If you get a peep out of it over a nulled spot or any type of click or pop that is conductive you need to dig it! This machine will find the goods and that is the key. It will see a good target amongst the trash and iron more than any detector I've ever used and isolate the target superbly for digging. It's all about knowing what the GT is telling ya..............

 

[Ism]

I don't think silent search is anything more than an attenuation gimic. Similar to a squelch switch on radios back in the day.

Ism i wear black widow HP and after 40 minutes to a hour of hearing the threshold sound or that iron null sound it,s nice to hit that silent switch and walk 20 mintes in those fields or beaches then when you hit a good target it really wakes me up , so sometimes that switch comes in handy if anything . Jim

Agreed, its purpose is legitimate, but I don't believe for a second it produces better results by cranking up the threshold in silent search.
I also have my reservations about "iron mask on"....the jury is still out on that one for me.

 

[Critterhunter]

It will see a good target amongst the trash and iron more than any detector I've ever used and isolate the target superbly for digging.quote]

I feel the same way.