:shrug:NEED INFO ON C SCOPE DETECTORS!

[Woodchuck]

Anybody here use em in USA? like know about 990XD,1220XD and CS5MX Thanks Woodchuck

 

[amcjavelin]

they are on the heavy side so i'm told, i've always wanted to try the CS3MX same idea as a silver umax but with a pinpoint button and runs on 17khz, the down side is i think it weighs 4.2lbs?

 

[Finder82]

they are on the heavy side so i'm told, i've always wanted to try the CS3MX same idea as a silver umax but with a pinpoint button and runs on 17khz, the down side is i think it weighs 4.2lbs?

I had a C.scope 3mx and it is well balanced, it weights 3.3 lbs. The machine is fast in recovery speed and very sensitive to small stuff. At least my C.scope 3mx where not too usefull in beach, because it liked crown bottle caps.

 

[UK Brian]

C-Scope sold under the "Newforce" label in the States so you should find more information under that name for how the detectors perform in general. The two XD models are fairly new so I doubt if you would find U.S. test results. I would say avoid the 990, not that its not good and excellent value but its just not as good as the 1220 which though similar in operating principle has got more depth, modes and sheer adjustability.

The 1220XD is an upgrade model so you can read any reviews for the early version 1220's and get a good idea of what they are about. Any reviews except for the digital 1220R. This was a different kettle of fish and the move to digital wasn't an easy one.

I first used the 5MX in 1994 or 1995 when it came out. Any review will do as they just tweaked it better over the years.

Most C-Scopes (except perhaps the very cheapest) are rain and dust proof which is a big plus.

 

[JB(MS)]

I bought a Newforce CS-1220XD and a CS-5ZX not too long after they hit the market here in the states. The 1220 was really fun to use, and the tones in audio/meter mode were pretty awesome. It didn't go very deep compared to some vlf's that were in the same price range, except in the preset ground balanced VLF all metal mode, but the 17 khz frequency hit on small gold jewelry really well. The variable tones in audio/meter mode were great for shallow hunting, low growl on small iron up to an almost out of hearing range high tone on high conductive targets, but the frequency of the tones started dropping at about 2 inches and a quarter at 3 inches gave about the same tone as a tab barely under the surface of the ground. The meter is basically a ferrous/nonferrous type that would be of little or no use to most. I kept the 1220 for well over a year, still have the original manual around here somewhere, but traded it and the CS-5ZX. I have a CS-5ZX now that I traded for last year and I believe is the same one I had before. It has a "Y" shaped scratch in the same place on the case as an identical scratch I accidently made on the 5ZX I sold. Photo is a Newforce Flyer add from a treasure mag in 1998 that lists all the models sold here back then.
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This is a OK Post. Mr. Bill

 

[targets]

they've just announce a new model the R1, see their website


csmetaldetectors.com

 

[JB(MS)]

C-Scope may have recently upgraded the R1, but they were on the market as far back as February of 2000. Bill Revis, who moderates the Garrett forum, was sent an R1 to test sometime in 1999 and the A and S company was selling them for $695 before the end of January of 2000. Link is to a thread in the archives of Carl's forum on my website in which the R1 was discussed in February of 2000. http://jb-ms.com/Carlsforum/Original/302.htm.

 

[UK Brian]

Thanks for saving me from pointing out just how old the R1 is.
The whole point with the 990 and the 1220's (all versions) is that they are designed to be used in the primary VLF all metal mode as its a serious detector not just a coinshooter for a quick flick round the park. Forget tones which are poor on all detectors and use the ferrous/non ferrous meter. The use of target response (not tone) allows coins/rings etc to be identified from ferrous and foil to be ignored. Rather than being a meter thats "of little use to most" its a meter that provides all the information a serious detector user requires.

I also assume your 1220 was fitted with the smaller solid coil rather than the "Superlight" 10" openloop design which makes quite a difference in depth in all but heavily mineralised ground.

 

[JB(MS)]

I've known a lot of people over a lot of years in north Mississippi, east Alabama and south Tennessee who use metal detectors, but only a very small percentage of them could be considered to be serious detector users. At least 90 percent of them are recreational detector users who want a detector that's easy to use, discriminates out everything but coins and has some type of ID meter that tells them what denomination coin is under the the coil. I had a sideline used detector business for close to 15 years and almost without fail those who contacted me about buying a detector wanted a detector like "one of those detectors I saw on TV that shows you what's in the ground before you dig it up". The 1220 's ferrous/nonferrous meter doesn't fill those requirements, and is the reason I said it would be useless to most. I liked the 1220, it was fun to use but compared to other detectors I had then, and since then, the only positive feature was the tones in audio/meter mode. The Fisher CZ's and 1266 I had at the same time as the 1220 would go almost twice as deep at a comparable price, the GMT 1650 went as deep, deeper in all metal mode, and is better for hunting where there's a lot of iron is in the ground. Actually, the old Garrett Ground Hog VLF/TR's performed just as well as the 1220 and could be bought used for about 25% of the price. The ground here is virtually mineral free, so mild that preset ground balance detectors are normally balanced way too positive from the factory so that wasn't a consideration, but the 1220 I had did have an 8 inch coil.