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should makers ditch the notch function??
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Well I guess the only thing worth notching is the pulltab. Foil is usually handled with discrimination. Bottlecaps come in at too wide of range to block. So does can slaw. I never use notch myself. Most detectors with meters can identify pulltabs by the VDI. So I would rather hear them and skip them especially if they are shallow. Deep signals are a different story. If I'm not sure I dig.
I too rarely use notching, but its nice to have when wanting to create a special setup. I once hit an area around some bleachers which was absolutely "saturated" with thrash and only by going to a small coil and then needing to notch everything out except dimes and quarters, was I able to get in between all the trash and sweep the area clear of clad using the XT-70.
Until about four years ago I thought the notch feature on detectors was pretty much useless . Before then I set disc just above iron and recovered every solid signal. I dug a lot of trash, a lot of gold jewelry and a lot of older coins that didn't give coin range signals, but now that I'm pushing 70 and have arthritis that limits what I can do, I use either notch or tones to decide whether to dig a target or not most of the time. I realize I'm missing a lot of good stuff, but by limiting how many times I have to get down to dig a target I can hunt for three to four times as long as I can if I dig every solid signal above iron. I still find an occasional gold jewelery item, but since I began using notch on a regular basis I'm finding way more coins per hunt than I ever found before I started using it. If I were as physically able now as I was just five years ago I would agree with you, but old age and the afflictions that go with it make a huge difference in what we do and how we do it.
Larry (IL)
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Some hunters use them and some hunters use them A LOT. White's, from the DFX on up have 191 notches and everyone with those machines uses them.
dewcon4414
Well-known member
I use them occasionally as well on the Explorer pattern have a purpose as does LEARN. There are times id rather hear a broken tone as all those bottle caps or trash. If im looking for something specific and have little time there is a lot less concentration with a good notch.
Dew
Dew
n/t
isn't it great?..love the "goofy" looks from people!
judgemental a**wipes!..heh! heh! heh! just sayin'
good luck with the "notching" even getting "clad"
can be nice!..only hobby i know,where you can enjoy yourself,
NOT waste time,and pay yourself too!..whats NOT to like?
(h.h.!)
j.t.
judgemental a**wipes!..heh! heh! heh! just sayin'
good luck with the "notching" even getting "clad"
can be nice!..only hobby i know,where you can enjoy yourself,
NOT waste time,and pay yourself too!..whats NOT to like?
(h.h.!)
j.t.
dewcon4414
Well-known member
Cherry picking.... now theres an odd term since basically thats what we do. Those who dont dig everything which takes time and makes for a lot of brown spots this time of the year. As much as you pay for a detector dont start giving them ideas about what to take a way. Its like i was getting a whapper..... but now they want to give me a happy meal for the same price.
Dew
Dew
Your in Britain and like anyone else in Europe would be mad to use any notch system.
For the U.S. its just a case of weighing what your prepared to lose, just as with running high (and by that I mean foil level) discrimination. I've a fair amount of colonial coins found in the U.S. and more Spanish hammered silver. I'm just glad that people don't want to dig overwise there really would not be much left to find.
For the U.S. its just a case of weighing what your prepared to lose, just as with running high (and by that I mean foil level) discrimination. I've a fair amount of colonial coins found in the U.S. and more Spanish hammered silver. I'm just glad that people don't want to dig overwise there really would not be much left to find.
jackintexas
New member
I have found over a hundred gold rings. When necessary I use the notch feature a lot. Depends on the trash and the liklyhood of gold.....Jack
That's why I have the Ace with the sniper coil. An interesting item-I notch with the foil icon left active. I have found that the majority of rings I've found are in the foil ring-so whenever I get into the "pull tab" parks I have a chance to find a gold ring.Elton said:
jackintexas
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Slingshot: You are correct. Most rings lost are women's rings. Who wears the most rings. After testing a couple of hundred gold rings I find trhe majority of lost gold rings are in the foil range. When in a pulltab infested location where I think there should be gold, I hunt only in the nickel-foil range. I don't get all the rings but quiet a few.....Jack
Better to start with the basics and build a test bed with just one coin type at various depths from say five inches through to at least a foot. Then get any detector and be suprised at how soon a coin thats buried flat to give the optimal result indicates as iron.
That sorts out the accuracy of target I.D. Notch just make things worse.
Unfortunately the modern generation missed out the early period of I.D. machines led by Whites, Compass and a few others which having analog displays clearly illustrated that gold or silver can display almost anywhere on a meter.
If people experimented just a little more they would be rewarded. Its suprising how few realise that the conductivity of a metal changes with size or the difference between iron "see through" and discrimination.
As the You Tube tests people seem to place so much weight behind many are just party tricks. Its so easy to pick up small coins by, on or under larger iron but its a tricks that doesn't work in real life. Same with recovery speed "tests". Just how often do you get a coin or ring thats in the soil on the same level as iron ? To say what works best you need to simulate real life (or create a test bed that does) and that means good and bad items should be at different depths.
Surface blanking was praised to the skies at one period and many changed their detectors to get a model with that feature. The fact its really about as much good as a chocolate tea pot was not obvious unless you had a proper test bed.
Its funny when so much is being made of "recovery speed" there's no mention of detectors that don't need it.
Sorry to drift a little off the topic of test beds but until everyone builds a few they leave themself open to being misled.
That sorts out the accuracy of target I.D. Notch just make things worse.
Unfortunately the modern generation missed out the early period of I.D. machines led by Whites, Compass and a few others which having analog displays clearly illustrated that gold or silver can display almost anywhere on a meter.
If people experimented just a little more they would be rewarded. Its suprising how few realise that the conductivity of a metal changes with size or the difference between iron "see through" and discrimination.
As the You Tube tests people seem to place so much weight behind many are just party tricks. Its so easy to pick up small coins by, on or under larger iron but its a tricks that doesn't work in real life. Same with recovery speed "tests". Just how often do you get a coin or ring thats in the soil on the same level as iron ? To say what works best you need to simulate real life (or create a test bed that does) and that means good and bad items should be at different depths.
Surface blanking was praised to the skies at one period and many changed their detectors to get a model with that feature. The fact its really about as much good as a chocolate tea pot was not obvious unless you had a proper test bed.
Its funny when so much is being made of "recovery speed" there's no mention of detectors that don't need it.
Sorry to drift a little off the topic of test beds but until everyone builds a few they leave themself open to being misled.