I dont have the good head phones, but I have a pair of Sony stereo headphones that seem decent quality. they are not amplified. I can not tell the difference in any tones at all in AM mode, and I can hear the tone very well and clear. I can get a pretty good idea of the depth and size of targets, but when I hear people talk about identifying metals with the sound im lost. I have the Vaquero. i have done tests with regular quartes and dimes and silver ones and notice no difference in the tone in am mode or the beep in disc. mode. Any advice? do I really need the good head phones to hear the different tones of different metals?
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should I be able to hear different tones with regular headphones?
- Thread starter cjruger
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Hay there Cjruger,
You don't have to have really good headphones to hear most things.
But, it will increase the quality of your finds to have better headphones.
I have the Vaquero. i have done tests with regular quartes and dimes
and silver ones and notice no difference in the tone in am mode or the
beep in disc. mode.
You are right, there is little difference between types of coins in the all
metal mode on a Vaquero. Even nickels. But I can tell it's a good signal.
Now isn't it nice that the AM just tiped me off that it's a good signal?..
Now, you need to learn what a bad signal, and other types of signals are
like.
The all metal doesn't help much IDing the type of metal. The disc mode
does that.
The Vaquero has a very good all metal mode. I use it to hunt with.
There are so many types of signals, and so much other info you can get
through the audio that it really does help to have quality metal detector
headphones.
It's really more important to learn trash if you want to dig less trash.
It's necessary to learn what good targets sound like, but not as important.
Dig And Improve. Can You Dig It?
You don't have to have really good headphones to hear most things.
But, it will increase the quality of your finds to have better headphones.
I have the Vaquero. i have done tests with regular quartes and dimes
and silver ones and notice no difference in the tone in am mode or the
beep in disc. mode.
You are right, there is little difference between types of coins in the all
metal mode on a Vaquero. Even nickels. But I can tell it's a good signal.
Now isn't it nice that the AM just tiped me off that it's a good signal?..
Now, you need to learn what a bad signal, and other types of signals are
like.
The all metal doesn't help much IDing the type of metal. The disc mode
does that.
The Vaquero has a very good all metal mode. I use it to hunt with.
There are so many types of signals, and so much other info you can get
through the audio that it really does help to have quality metal detector
headphones.
It's really more important to learn trash if you want to dig less trash.
It's necessary to learn what good targets sound like, but not as important.
Dig And Improve. Can You Dig It?
BarberBill
New member
I'm thinking your are probably all right with those phones. With most Tesoros and other single tone machines, you can learn to often identify trash and other poor targets by slight, subtle differences in the tone as well as whether it gives a good response in more than one direction. As to identifying dimes versus quarters, "sweet round sounds" etc. I don't personally buy it. One can fairly quickly learn to recognize the solid hit of good targets versus marginal ones, but you'll still get the occasional tab, alum can etc. that will sound off the same, especially if your discrimination is set low. The main advantages of the better headphones designed for detector use (or not) is their sensitivity to the weak, soft hits on deep or small targets, possibly a crisper, sharper response, and better insulation against outside noise. After you've put in many hours with your machine, you'll pick up on the small differences in the signal automatically, but it takes practice. One way to speed this up a bit is to hunt the bark filled tot lots regularly. Set your discrimination low enough to accept jewelry and nickels or even small iron and dig everything. You'll quickly learn the difference between a good, SOLID, repeatable, coin response versus the misc trash. We all sometimes get fooled by marginal responses, but the good ones ring true pretty much every time. JMHO
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thanks, ive got quit a few tot lot hours in already and I can definatly tell what is a coin and what is not. Im getting pretty good at IDing trash also by the consistancy of the beep in disc mode.and where it goes out on the disc. just was wondering about what more there is to learn from the sounds in am mode. I hunted an area in a swamp yesterday on a really high piece of ground in the middle of a swamp. found nothing but old shot gun hulls, (that hit all the way thru the disc, even on max,) and 22 casings and bullets. I thought maybe I could find a coin there. but it was still a neat place to go.
Your Sony headphones operate at 8 ohms like cheaper MD heaphones. The higher quality MD headphones operate at 150 ohms and usually start signals at 200-400 cycles (hz). The Tesoro spectrum starts at 300+ hz, so your headphones are draining more to try and operate bass that isn't there. (remember 0 ohms are a dead short). The extra draw may be hampering the start and end of the tone you hear from your unit. But only to a trained ear would you notice a difference.
It's best to try to match headphones impedance to the detector supplying the signal rather than one that is designed to grab the bass from a Gene Simmons bass run.
It's best to try to match headphones impedance to the detector supplying the signal rather than one that is designed to grab the bass from a Gene Simmons bass run.
I'm using a couple different pairs of Calrad headphones.
Inexpensive, yet I feel performance is good, even though I'd like to try the hi dollar headsets.
Persistence is the key to learning the variability a single tone Tesoro is capable of.
It's difficult to describe the differences using words such as 'brite, short, soft, mellow, sharp, clipped, etc.'
As the WX is getting warmer, I've noticed a change in my headphone sound qualities when detecting in the direct sun.
Black plastic headphones with some degree of mass to them will transmit heat to the speaker element causing at least some degree of change in performance. Since we are listening intently for variation in tone and response, we'll probably notice.
Solution?
Dig 'em all!
HH
rmptr
Inexpensive, yet I feel performance is good, even though I'd like to try the hi dollar headsets.
Persistence is the key to learning the variability a single tone Tesoro is capable of.
It's difficult to describe the differences using words such as 'brite, short, soft, mellow, sharp, clipped, etc.'
As the WX is getting warmer, I've noticed a change in my headphone sound qualities when detecting in the direct sun.
Black plastic headphones with some degree of mass to them will transmit heat to the speaker element causing at least some degree of change in performance. Since we are listening intently for variation in tone and response, we'll probably notice.
Solution?
Dig 'em all!
HH
rmptr