Most of the areas that we hunted had high grass/weeds and the other clear areas had been hunted heavily... Most of the buck n balls were not all that deep but in disc. they could have been easily missed (we hunted in AM) Most of the targets had been missed by other detectorist and most were "bumps" in the audio... Pretty good hunt over all and got a break from work... BTW, I used a T-2 and my buddy used and F-75... I hate to say this but they seemed to be evenly matched in all metal... the 4 button are all plain Eagle buttons, nice carved round ball, carved chess piece ? Best to all, Richard