Settings question

[cintitomcat]

I've posted some find with my settings, stock coin program, manual sens 30, only other thing i changed was fast settings. some reply are manual settings 30, i take it this is odd. What other setting would work better for depth increase? Will running auto sens and auto level +3 get more depth and a better target response and while in auto what does manual setting do if anything? Thanks

 

[NebTrac]

It really depends on your ground. Some get used to the "chatter" in Manual. Where I'm at, we do not have the much mineralized soil, but I really do not like to hunt in Manual. I run Auto +3, 99% of the time. If I'm in heavy, heavy trash I will back that down, even as far as Auto -2.

Its mainly what your ground is saying to the sensitivity bar and also what you're willing to put up with as far as excess chatter. The best I've ever done is 31 (yes its possible) and that was in Auto +3. Most of the time around here we are at about 23 in Auto +3, and that's pulling coins out to near the 1 foot level with 6-10 inches being the norm.

Also, I have a much more open screen than the stock coin program. I run Andy Sabisch's coin program when in conductive sounds and near wide open in TTF with just the top being disc'd out from 1 to about 35.

NebTrac

 

[roadapple]

There is lots of back search reading on manual vrs auto and also on youtube is a video showing the two in use. I know I and most prefer manual for depth.

 

[ironsight]

I've done a lot of experimenting with this Auto vs. Manual vs. depth. In normal soil, manual is the deepest seeking setting no holds barred, no contest.
Do not automatically unconditionally set manual to 30. Ratchet it up to where you get a tolerable false maybe every few sweeps. This is the manual setting sweet spot for beginners to start out with.

With some experience and perseverance,
myself and likely others here depending on soil/EMI conditions sometimes go full steam ahead, dam the torpedoes, with a 30 manual setting with a false or two every sweep . Yeah its a headache in the beginning but i guarantee it'll get the deepest keepers mostly relying on instinct after a while. With all the hyper pounded parks around here most of the oldies are deep real deep forcing me to go the extra mile and it HAS paid off.
However, i would not recommend this for beginners, it'll drive you crazy.

I rarely use Auto these days but when i do its in extreme EMI areas, tot parks or really bad soil conditions.

 

[squirrel1]

Manual will be deeper. At manual setting 25 the etrac goes into boost. So at the very least try to run at least that high. In heavy iron nail pits the various auto level settings could/may squeak a find out that would be missed in a high manual setting (because of noise). A nice quiet etrac when being swept is not hunting that good. On bad ground a smaller coin than stock will be better and maybe deeper i.e. the 6x8 sef coil. A good way to tell if your ground is bad is when sweeping over clean ground with say manual sensivity at 27 and the etrac is noisy (remember to do a noise cx). In this case you can do 3 things: keep hunting putting up with noise, reduce sensivity, or go to smaller coil. You will notice better,steadier TID in manual sensitivity vs say auto plus 3 on say the deeper dimes. And some will say they see them fine at 8 inches in auto plus 3. I used to run a pair of etracs and the info I've put forht is what I saw in multiple sites. I hunted clean sites and sites that were so nail laden it's a wonder I found anything at all. I actually made my best finds in the nails pits using a sef 10x12 coil. The ole M/L wiggle was used and used. Very little sweeping going on.

 

[cintitomcat]

Thanks for the feedback

 

[sprchng]

I like to noise cancel first then run in auto +3 to get a sample of the ground. Finding somewhat clean ground certainly helps. If you get a sens. reading in the mid 20's , bully for you , you've got some sweet easy ground to play in. If the machine comes in considerably less than that I have found you can usually push the sens. too about 10 points above that and still maintain a relatively quiet hunt. Most of my ground runs sens. of 10 to 12 in auto +3 so upper 20's are out of the question. You can play with the noise cancel and chose a different channel to run in but I doubt you will gain much effectiveness.

In really trashy ground the ground tracking of the etrac may begin to see the trash as ground and gradually begin tracking(balancing) it out and your sensitivity will drop. I have found in those places it helps to find a clean spot to determine sens. settings with the machines tracking system and then use manual to lock in that setting or run a bit higher and you stop the tracking from canceling out the trash which could be also canceling out some good targets.

 

[ChicagoJohn]

I use Auto 3 plus most of the time! I keep eye on my machine to see what is sensitivity like 21, 22 or 24 then that's fine with me. If its so low as 10 (rare) then I try manual 16 and see what happen. I noticed that get low on beach, water shoreline or hard ground like rocks. I tried manual 26 and get many fault. Maybe good for someone but not easy for me. I found Barber dime at 9 inch deep on Auto 3 plus.

 

[surfchunker]

usually run A+3 and have my manual set at 27 so if I get a deep iffy target I just hit the shift key and switch to manual and check it out then shift again back to A+3 when I'm done

 

[cintitomcat]

Always use the stock coin program with man sens 30 all the time with very little false, I also swing a medium speed. Going to open dic up to everything above 22 and see if it's still quiet.

 

[ironsight]

One thing to keep in mind, an AUTO +3 sens. reading of say 25 is NOT the same overall sensitivity as a MANUAL sens. setting that reads 25.

 

[looknforgold]

With John on this oneI use Auto 3 plus most of the time! I keep eye on my machine to see what is sensitivity like 21, 22 or 24 then that's fine with me. If its so low as 10 (rare) then I try manual 16 and see what happen. I noticed that get low on beach, water shoreline or hard ground like rocks. I tried manual 26 and get many fault. Maybe good for someone but not easy for me. I found Barber dime at 9 inch deep on Auto 3 plus.

I'm with John... Auto plus 3 most of the time, if I can, I'll go to manual, but I want that machine running as smooth as I can get it without making the CPU think too much. I never let it run under 20, 21 if I can help it (lose too much depth IMO).....but, I do like to run 22 or 25 Manual if the trash is low, AND, I always go slow.... Diga.