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Set my confusion straight

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cdog46

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Fisher has been sold-that I know. If I read this forum right the CZ3D is going to discontinued. If this is so-anyone who has used this detector knows it's excellent though quite an old design.

Just what detector does Fisher have out now that is head & shoulders above a CZ3D. Please do not misunderstand! I'm not saying CZ3D is the best detector out there. Rather-it is a detector I know well and so what are they now producing that's "better" ?
 
Isn't the F75 their top of the line now? Steve.
 
Am sure the F-75 serves many well but a CZ for user friendly qualities and super depth just tough to beat...
 
I have them both and since getting the 75 earlier this year, my 3d has been relegated to the tot lots on weekends as I have the smaller coil for it and can get a little closer to the playground equitment. For serious hunting, though, the f75 is it for me. HH jim tn
 
They said the CZ3D is still in production and is a model in the current line-up. There was no indication of it being discontinued. I have one myself and consider an excellent metal detector!
 
Just curious, what kind of depth are you talking about?

Also, just so you know, I have been a cz fan for over a decade and in fact, still am. The f75 just has some things I like about it over the 3d for coin shooting trashy sites, Not the least of which, is the difference in weight.:cheers: HH jim tn
 
OK -this is a small sample of opinion-but from what I can ascertain-the F-75 might be considered as "good" Or may be a little "better" in certain respects. And I know the Coinstrike has been discontinued.

This I also know-if it ain't broke-don't fix it. Why are these geniuses in Texas fiddling with the CZ20? Other than the reason they can because they bought Fisher. It looks to me like another good company going down the hole.
That so called F-75 comes dangerously close in looks &styling to those awful detectors they sell in big box stores or at Radio Shellac. I wonder why!

Too bad it appears another excellent company looks doomed. Strong word I know but-look with your own eyes without blinders.
 
The F75 gets better ID at depth, and better depth in general. My 3D still holds a fond place in my heart, but the F75 is my main squeeze these days! :)
 
Making a better detector model certainly does not mean another good co. is "going down the hole." Product improvements, what ever the product may be, is what makes a co. stronger, competitive and continue to flourish. With the advent of the F75 and F4, some other detector companies now have some catching up to do. As most know, looks can be deceiving and have learned it is actually what is in the package that counts. Also, confusion can also be caused by blinders. HH jim tn
 
[quote cdog46]OK -this is a small sample of opinion-but from what I can ascertain-the F-75 might be considered as "good" Or may be a little "better" in certain respects. And I know the Coinstrike has been discontinued.

This I also know-if it ain't broke-don't fix it. Why are these geniuses in Texas fiddling with the CZ20? Other than the reason they can because they bought Fisher. It looks to me like another good company going down the hole.
That so called F-75 comes dangerously close in looks &styling to those awful detectors they sell in big box stores or at Radio Shellac. I wonder why!

Too bad it appears another excellent company looks doomed. Strong word I know but-look with your own eyes without blinders.[/quote]

Exactly what are you trying to say? Do you have an F75 or are you just assuming it isn't a good machine? I have one and have had a T2 for over a year. I like both of them but the F75 is really an awesome detector. I see nothing to dislike about it.
Talking trash about it because you don't like the way it looks...????

Maybe you should try one.

J
 
F75 is the new kid in town and if you think about all of the different detectors that have been made the F75 has a bit of everything mixed into it. Fast...can pick up targets faster then the eye can see.
Light... you can use this machine all day!
Deep...you can pump this boy up for some great depth!
Lots of programs...loads of ways to program this machine.
Back Light...that is a great help for those night hunts.
DD coil...that works, and works like a small coil...but Fisher please make a small coil before you lose sales!
 
It is true the F75 has some bugs but it is not a walmart toy. Just try it and you will understand why it will be one of the best machines ever made!
 
I had heard a rumor the CZ3D might be discontinued. Rumors-I will concede-are just that-rumors. However-I don' t hear great things about the F4, and-the defense of the F-75 re: my post is lukewarm at best.

So-the rest is just opinion. I still think the F-75 looks a lot like a walmart toy. Why would a company try to put their finger print on a good company with just another detector whose performance is nothing special.

Fisher-not Bounty Hunter-or whoever they are-has the excellent reputation-not them. If you can't put out a new design that's head & shoulders above what they bought in Fisher-and discontinuing an excellent but somewhat controversial detector(Coinstrike)-what just is it you have gained?

Not much-thats for sure-and especially when you-the buyer company-has produced until now- nothing but junk. The junk I'm referring to is tjhe Walmart toys-not the F-75. And why would you want your new "flagship " detector to look-even vaguely-like that junk?

And lastly- metal detectors are niche market-metal detectorists a small but informed bunch who are not fooled easily more than once.
Being a limited market-what you bring out=better be damn good and, with the the Minelabs of the world-that's not easy. Minelab has been eating everybody's lunch-and many-myself included-thought Fisher a close secondbest.

That how I feel about & the reasons why I feel the way I do- it's not trash talk-its one mans opinions.
 
[quote cdog46]I

Fisher-not Bounty Hunter-or whoever they are-has the excellent reputation-not them. If you can't put out a new design that's head & shoulders above what they bought in Fisher-and discontinuing an excellent but somewhat controversial detector(Coinstrike)-what just is it you have gained?[/quote]

Unfortunately the Coinstrike for whatever reason did not catch on so was not a good seller. As you said it is a niche market. For a company to make it and continue to produce new machines there has to be a profit somewhere.

For First Texas the choice was obvious, come out with a new top end machine to get the Fisher name back in the ballgame and dump the losers. Personally I feel saddened that the Coinstrike is gone. With just a few changes the C$ could be revived into a great mid priced machine. FT has nothing with ground tracking ability and the C$ in many peoples opinion is one of the best trackers for hot ground ever made. Unfortunately with Dimitar now gone it is doubtful FT will revive the C$ in an improved version, which is a sad thing IMO.

Tom
 
Why are these geniuses in Texas fiddling with the CZ20? Other than the reason they can because they bought Fisher.
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As you may be aware Dave Johnson developed the CZ's multi frequency circuit. I can think of no one better qualified to make improvements than the original developer!

Hopefully multi-frequency is not dead at First Texas. That is of course unless they have something better coming down the pike. (insert smiley of your choice)

I am happy and at the same time saddened with the direction FT seems to be taking. Heartened that they are willing to spend the money on R & D of new machines and saddened at the seeming abandonment of Fishers later models.

Tom
 
Low-Boy has a point, it is light, deep, and it's faster than I'll ever be.
I have gone through several machines and currently I'm down to a half dozen to include the F-75. I have had no problems with my F-75 at all.
It's a good thing that there are multiple manufacturers and each manufacturer have models to choose from. It's like vehicles, buy the models that interest one. If the model don't interest me, I'll just move on and shop for another. Having a variety out there - gives me a choice.
 
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