Seriously, does the Tejon and Vasquero really

[Reader]

go that much deeper than other machines or are these claims just brand loyalty? From what I am able to research so far is the average detector gets about 8-9 inches, maybe 10 on air tests.

Now, my ace 250 big coil does about 9 (air tests). I would be very disappointed to buy a much more expensive machine only to gain 1/2 of an inch.

Question 2: what is meant by one tone id machine? Thanks Tesoro guys.

 

[rentasquid]

And I'm sure its open to a lot of debate. I do know that the cortes that I had dug deeper items than the Pantera that I also had. That is about a two generation difference between the detectors. So, I'm sure that the Tejon/Vaquero/Cibola might be a little deeper since it uses a bumped up gain. I personally liked the discrimation qualities of the older Tesoros than the Tejon that I had.(As well as the slower retune speed).

So, I dont know...The grass always looks greener when your standing on the other side of the fence, but it always seems like when you climb over to get a taste, its then you discover that its not grass but poison ivy. At least thats what I'm finding with a non-Tesoro detector that I recently purchased.

As per your question on Tone ID...On most Tesoro detectors, you get a single tone for any target that you pass your coil over. On some detectors that they have made(Pantera, the whole Golden series, the Cortes) different target segments have been broken up into different tones. So that way you can easily tell the difference between a nickel and a dime, because the nickel will have a low tone, and a dime will sound off as a high tone. Its a very handy tool for discriminating, without having your eyes glued to a display screen, looking for the same info. I've found it to be much more indicative of a target than VDI(coins have a very unique tonal quality).
Just my two cents...

J.

 

[Scully]

n/t

 

[rentasquid]

I know it doesnt in its normal operation, but it does in it sum mode, and that was what I was refering to. I should have been more clear.

J.

 

[flint]

Like others have stated, the Vaquero, et. al. only sounds off with a single tone, and you have to set your discriminate knob to determine how far down the chain of targets you're willing to dig.

What I usually do is set my discriminate knob just below the 5 cent cutoff, and when I sound off on a target I'll fiddle with the knob and see how far I can turn it up until it discriminates out... so if I go past pull tabs on the dial and I'm still getting a nice solid tone, I dig it. It works the same way on the bottom end... if I turn past the 5 cent mark and don't get a tone (or a broken tone), then I know there's a nickel in the ground.

It's really not as difficult as it sounds, since the knob sits right next to your thumb... all you have to do is move your thumb over and rotate the dial a bit, then rotate it back... though a lot of people don't even do that, they just set their cutoff point and dig everything that gives off a tone (with the hopes of finding gold).

It is a bit different only having a single tone if you're used to a multi-tone detector, but I found that my old detector would oftentimes switch between tones on the same target so you never really 'knew' what was underneath it unless you were finding a relatively untarnished clad coin... even quarters that had been in the ground a while would hit the midrange tone, rather than the upper (coin) tone.

 

[Jerry Ga.]

It has been my experience relic hunting that the only serious challenge to the Tejon depthwise comes from the Nautilus IIb and IIBa. But the Tejon really excells at finding coins and buttons on edge (at depth)! And in an area with little or no trash the ALL METAL depth of the Tejon just blows me away, the deepest I have seen in 30 years of relic hunting with the standard size coil. It is my opinion that only a nauty with the big 15 would punch deeper.
Jerry

 

[Shenandoah Digger]

The IIb with the 15 is by far the deepest detector made, especially in all metal.