se on the beach ?

[saltwater jim]

ok after trying many settings im still getting falsing in the wet sand . the falsing sounds like a low bass. i have used noise cancel over and over until i feel like im using my xlt in the wet sand. before i send the se back to minelab which really bugs me thier top of the line machine that hasnt worked without falsing in the wet sand.

is there anybody that uses the se on the beach in wet sand that doesnt get falsing? i was told by minelab that i should be able to scrub the coil through the wet sand with no falsing which i find unbelievable as ive been holding it about a quarter inch above the ground to try to get less falsing. the settings im ising now are what sandy at minelab suggested

gain-6
fast on
deep off
sens ive been running at 22 as i still get falsing at 15

what im asking before i spend anymore money by shipping it back to minelab is if anybody has been able to run the se in the wet sand without falsing thanks in advance
a dissapointed SE owner

 

[tomtowns]

Hi there mooncusser, Just a thought...Are they repeatable signals? Or is it TRUE falseing? Have you tried digging any of them? I haven't tried mine at the ocean yet but the local lakes around here either have loads of hot rocks or on the beaches, decomposing granite with loads of black sand & I haven't had that problem...If your cable connections are tight & you've checked under the coil cover for debris then you very well may have a problem...I'm new to the explorer so let some of the experts here give their opinion before you send it off...one more thing, when I was at a local lake earlier this week (Decomposing Granite)I did dig a whole lot of signals where there was nothing in the hole except a big rust ring...but no problems with falseing...TT

 

[Mike (Virginia Beach)]

You should be able to run the SE in the wet sand with no problem. I've only had mine to the beach once because I use the Excal for the beach but I wanted to try it so I did. I had my Explorer II to the beach a few times. In both cases I was able to run in the wet sand without any falsing. I think your settings are fine...I ran ses at 18. I'm b=not sure why you would want Fast on and Deep off though, as unless there's a lot of trash or targets at your beach, I wouldn't see the need for a quick recovery time down in the wet sand. I would think you'd want fast off and deep on so that you could hit those harder-to-get small gold signals. I ran mine at gain 5, deep, IM-AM and it was as smooth as a baby's butt.

One thing you might want to do is to make sure there's nothing in your coil cover...like wet salty sand or even dried crusty sand from the last outing. In fact, take it off altogether and try that if you haven't. The problem could be sand of water trapped in between. If that's not the case and the coil wire is snug at the control box end then I would say probably send it in.

Oh, another thing...what are you wearing on your feet when you're doing this? Anything with metal eyelets, steel shank, or ANY metal at all? I had some shoes that would give me iron signals on a couple of my machines and it drove me nuts. I don't use shoes with any metal in them for detecting now for that reason.

Hope some of that helps.

 

[James N.D.]

I have never detected on a Salt Water Beach before and I do not have the SE as of yet, but hear me out. A couple real quick questions for you. 1. Do you Noise Cancel before you start detecting and if you do, do you Noise Cancel when the SE starts to false? 2. What kind of Sensitivity are you using in the Wet Sand? Semi-Auto or Manual? I think the next time you get out do a Noise Cancel before you start detecting in the Wet Sand and if it starts to false on you, then I would first try Semi-Auto and run about 20 and see if this helps you out. If not, then try Manual. And make sure that when you change any settings to do a Noise Cancel which should help you get the best possible stability you can get. And like the others have mentioned before, make sure the Coil Cover is Clean or just take it off all together and I would try Deep On Fast Off and have your Gain set around 6 or so. Hope this helps out and Good Luck and HH.

 

[saltwater jim]

thanks all for the responses . i did not understand running it in fast not deep at the beach also but tried it at sandys suggestion. i have used noise cancel every time with the coil on the wet sand . i kinda expected the se to run smooth as my sov and excal do but wasnt sure since this is my first explorer . the settings dont have me confused as i had the whites xkt where u could adjust gain etc. so i just basically ran it in all metal gain at 6 man sens 22 pitchhold and deep before i tried fast . im not new to mding and was imptessed at the depth of the se on quarters and dimes which blasted though the falsing however nickels give the same low sound as the falsing which means gold too so i guess i need to ship it back to minelab and see what they can do. hope they dont desensitive it to much well thanks all back to my trusted sov and excal thanks jim

 

[Mike - Central Coast - CA]

I use my EX II on the beach and I think I have the same issue as you. First, I don't use the coil cover at the beach... Fills up with sand too quickly and really gives you some falsing. Second, if my coil is in the water it doesn't false, but when I move out of the water I get a faint low tone falsing when the water drips from the coil to the wet sand. I also get the same falsing in the wet sand when my coil slightly touches the sand.

It is the same low tone and I have simply gotten use to it as with other Explorer sounds. Since I know when it's going to happen, I don't stress out over it after it happens. I still occasionally re-sweep the area but the "ghost signal" is no longer there.

I have had the same falsing with my HeadHunter PI... Leaving the water and the occasional "brushing" of the wet sand, so I chalk it up to some normal function of signal and electrical function of the detector. Hope that helps... Mike

 

[tomtowns]

n/t

 

[John LA]

Since a couple of us have mentioned that sand or salt or water between the coil and coil cover will cause this problem; you have probably checked that. That is the most common cause. I hunt with coil in the water but change threshold when I go to wet sand and again when I go to dry sand. You are going to get some falsing as you change levels of salt. I solved my problem by going to the Excalibur but if one is very careful the problem can be solved by going to the Sovereign.

 

[saltwater jim]

hi tom yes was in concduct mode now switching to ferrous i have reduced to falsing by running sens at 10 still debating if i should send it in to minelab or not . hate to have them reduce the sens internally and lose depth but not sure how much depth i will get at 10 sens , still waiting to try at a park to see how it runs HH jim

 

[tomtowns]

you have posted is that dimes & quarters "Blasted through the falseing"....If I were you I don't think I'd send it back to minelab. It just may be small bits of iron that have corroded into semi-oblivion...the only time I've used mine at the beach, it was a freshwater beach & I was digging everything...I found a Whole bunch ot rusty deposits & let me say that the rust was all that could be recovered...If you don't have this problem on dry land, I believe I'd let it be...TT

 

[saltwater jim]

gonna keep it for now have a 5 year warranty did get rid of alot of falsing by running it at 10 sens in the wet sand . the falsing is not repeatable signals . just wondering how much depth im losing at 10 sens. anyways a work in progress HH jim

 

[digitrich]

n/t

 

[stateguyt]

Since your posting. I told you I have the same problem with the xs and the 2.So I called Minelab today and spoke Hans.He may think it could be one of the boards.I was trying to tell them it only happens by the salt water(not on dry sand or grass area)I just cant see it happing to two machines with four coils.So he wants me to send one of the machines to them.
Maybe give them a call and speak to Hans he is a tech.there.
The way Mike discribe it is exactly what mine does.
Could you keep us abreast on how you make out.

 

[saltwater jim]

hi stateguy well im running it now at 10 sens 6 gain and has helped the falsing althought i cant touch the sand or off it goes. i did also call minelab and was told i should be able to run and scrub it in the wet sand with no falsing . im still getting quarters and dimes loud and clear though the falsing so my quandry is this if i send it in to minelab they will most likely manually lower the sens and not sure if i really want this as i bought the se for depth . everywhere else works fine except where it gets wet so still debating what to do have a 5 year war on it plmk how u make out. i hear from some explorer owners they scrub the wet sand no problem and the other half cant touch the wet sand with there coil very confusing HH JIM

 

[tomtowns]

a phone call might put your mind at ease...I would certainly do it in mid-winter if given the option...TT