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Saturday deep finds and screen ID's (hey button experts ?)

Charles (Upstate NY)

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Here are the Saturday finds from the spot Ed has been pounding to death for the last several weeks. He has cleaned out most of the decent signals so I thought I would post Explorer screens of where these two indian heads landed.

First up an eagle button, small I'm guessing a cuff button. Can anyone date this for me? Best as I can make out the back says HORS??A NEW YORK NY.
[attachment 10459 buttonf.jpg]

Here's the first IH I found, it gave off lower iron tones, ID'd over on the iron side and stayed there. No bounce to the coin side at all. After I dug it I found rusty nails near the hole at 12 oclock and 3 oclock casting their iron signal over the top of this coin.
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Here's where it ID'd on my machine
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Here's the second IH I found. For whatever reason it decided to hang out low in the lead area.
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Here's where it ID'd on my machine
[attachment 10464 1906screen.JPG]

Last items are an example of what you might find if you dig these deep targets that don't ID near any coin areas. I was surprised to see the lead baby crib still had much of its paint.
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Charles - Goes to show you just can't find everything.
Can I assume you dug the IH's because they had a coin sound? Were you using ferrous or conduct?

AK in KY
 
Charles,

I found an artillery button with similar backmark. Horstmann company had many backmarks and have found a couple of web sites that give approx dates for each.

Chris
 
I was running ferrous tones.

The 1892 over in the iron zone had no coin tones at all, nothing but low iron "like" tones but note they were not as low in pitch as a nail sounds. Thats one of the advantages of ferrous since tones rise in pitch left to right. I don't totally ignore the low iron tones, a low iron tone that is slightly higher in pitch than a nail will get my attention.

This is a good example of when to rely less on the tones and pay attention to the cursor on the screen. In our area nails ID up in the top/left corner so I was sure it wasn't a nail. I have dug other indian heads where this was ID'ing. Also buttons and hex nuts and all manner of things. I would say on average the odds of digging a coin are low but if you are in an area of deep indian heads like I was the odds go up.

As low iron like indian head signals go this was actualy a good one. The worst of them are even further left around iron mask -14 and sound an aweful lot like a nail with no hint of coin tones. The tip off is they never get up in the top/left corner where nails ID, they are always a bit to the right and a bit lower.

The moral of the story is, there's some cool stuff that ID's on the left side of the screen.

The 1906 did have coin tones though it ID'd down in the lead bullet zone. As I recall there was nothing else in the hole or nearby. Its an example of how some of our soil types locally and depth can effect the ID.

Charles
 
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