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DeepTech

Salt water beach hunt???

M

migolddigger

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OK here's the scoop. I will be attending the Southern Beach Shoot-out in Fla this coming April 21-23. Everyone who swings a Tesoro says, they are the best for fast seeded hunts. They say pinpointing is easy, and you can move fast because they don't weight much. My question is this. If money wasn't an issue, witch one would you buy and why? I will be taking it on the air plane along with my fisher CZ-20 water machine. Remember were talking about Salt water beaches. I like the lightness idea and easy pinpointing Idea, but is it worth the money to get the vanqureo say verse the cebola. Or should I step up and get the Tej. I already own a Explorer II and use it all the time. If I'm spending $420 for a vanquero should I just step up and get the Tej. for the extra $$. What would you decide and why? Remember, the weight factor is an Issue for faster hunting and salt water and black sand for instability. I really appreciate your input on this issue.

Thanks again

Tom
 
[attachment 15467 Picture008.jpg]I was just hopping for atleast 1 response from someone with some knowledge on this issue. Please.

Thanks again,

Tom Weaver
 
I've attended that hunt, you won't need to worry about hunting in black or wet sand because they seed the field up close to the motel in the dry sand.
You have the right idea though, something light that resets quickly and hits hard with a fast swing rate on fairly shallow surface tartgets is what you need to compete. Something with a frequency shifter is even better incase you have someone that seems to follow you and the detectors cross talk.
You are in for a big surprise if it's the first time you've hunted one of these. You have to be extremely quick in finding your targets and moving onto the next one because within the first 5 minutes 99% of the targets are GONE ... so be ready. Each hunt last around 20-30 minutes, hopefully you'll find some good tokens.
Good Luck, it's pretty fun and they have some great prizes there too.
H.H.
Mike
 
I forgot to mention one important factor, NEVER take time to pinpoint a target. It simply takes to much time and all you need to do is get a visual line of site where the target is under your coil and sweep a hand held beach scoop under it, dump it in your hip basket and move on to your next one. Alway's run ZERO disc too.
Ron at Dixie Detectors can fix you up with the scoop and probably the hip basket. He's alway's there with a display and I'm usually with him.
H.H.
Mike
 
cheaper tesoro with freq. shift. Since Mike said that it is in dry sand, where you wont get any major interferences, a Cibola, or say maybe a Conquistador would do the trick. Both of those are presets with freq. shift. An Eldorado or a Vaquero would be good ones if you want to have GB. I bet you could get a Conqui. or Eldo for a song since they are discontinued models. I guess one would also need to know if this is a detector that you plan on keeping around after the hunt. Hope you do well!

J.
 
Everyone who swings a Tesoro says, they are the best for fast seeded hunts......NOT me !!!

That may be true for the Eldorado,Silver....but not for the Cibola or Vaquero.
The Vaquero is not a fast swinger detector. If you need depth you have to swing it slow.

I have a Vaquero but for that hunt i would use my Garrett Ace 250 (All Metal Mode). It gains depth by swinging it fast and due to its large inner loop of the coil it covers more ground per swing.

HH,
Andy
 
Any cheap Tesoro with a frequency switch will do the trick. I used a Sovereign GT on the beach to hunt the wet salt after the seeded hunts and did great with it but you don't have to be concerned with DEPTH at all for the comp hunt. Some of the finds will be laying right on top of the sand and none will be deeper than 2-3" for the most part.
What really excels in comp hunts are X-2 Shadows or any Shadow for that matter and Tesoro always do quite well in seeded hunts.
The Ace 250 would be o.k. there too, there were several used during the hunt last year but they were relatively new then so Tesoro easily captured the title of the most used there.
H.H.
Mike
 
I've never done one of those seeded speed hunts. Are there rules that would rule out the use of a Cleansweep or even a 12x10 or are they just so cumbersome that they would be impractical to use?

J.
 
Since the hunt is on the dry part of the beach you need a detector with fast target response and recovery and a coil with ground coverage the 200$ Ace 250 will be hard to beat at that hunt.

Don't get me wrong...the Ace is not better than some Tesoro Detectors but for that kind of hunt i would use the Ace. You could even use the 9x12 coil on the Ace to cover more ground.

The Tesoro Vaquero with a 10 x12 will be deep too but not as fast to swing without loosing depth.

Andy
 
The rules depend on the club who has the hunt. Detectors with standard coils are always legal and the Ace shines there.

Andy
 
Fisher Excel, Minelab X-Terra X30, both light, fast and I have used them in dry, damp, wet sand on Maine beaches. With a little reduction in sensitivity they're very well mannered in wet sand which includes some black sand mixed in. If by chance there is a rainstorm before the hunt, the Tesoro's might get twitchy.

HH
BarnacleBill
 
I guess it may be a matter of personal perspective, but I never found the Xterra-30 to be a "fast" machine by any means. "Faster" than some perhaps, but nothing to compare to what I would really consider a "snappy" target response speed. Somewhat delayed initial target acquisition is what turned the tables against the Xterra-30 for me in terms of hunting trashy areas especially, as that is always a factor in target masking once trash concentrations get more intense. The 30 was certainly not a machine I would pick for fast competition use, as it also seemed to lose signal/sensitivity when a very quick sweep speed was used.

JMO

Ralph
 
get my PM? If buying new, get an Ace 250 or Tesoro Silver. If you can find a used Compadre, Sidewinder or Silver Sabre UMax, dont pass them up.
 
The Cibola has a real problem in Black sand!! Traded mine in for a Sand Sahark. It works perfectly!! Beware of black sand around Brevard county and treasure coast beaches.
 
I would like to personally thank everyone for there input on this subject. I understand that opinions vary, and I always like to hear all sides of the coin. I guess I will probably go with the vaquero over the Cibola and the 250. I understand they are all great machines. I believe from my research, and from what Ive been told, that the Cibola has a preset ground balance. So if it was used out side of a Seeded hunt, it would be as a friend put, like using low beams on your car. The Vaquero would be like using High beam's. In the hands of an experienced user, it will go deeper and sees more because of it's manual ground capability's. As far as the 250, I have never held it or used it. It weighs more than the Tesoro, thats a fact, and it's pin pointing might be a little bit harder to do as well. The Vaquero would make a great back up to my other detector. So It's the Vaquero for my over all choice. Thanks everyone for making my decision an easy one.

Tom
 
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