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Salt Beaches ..........

GroundScanner

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Ok , so i asked alot about the Sov GT, and i have a E-Trac and before i get the GT , has anyone use the E-Trac on the salt beaches and if so, is it as good as the GT . I also asked this question an the E-Trac forum but not to many answered. Thanks for any responses
 
Groundscanner here is a video of the Badger using a E-Trac on a salt water beach wet sand it sure looks like a E-Trac will find gold n silver just like Sov GT could , maybe a little tougher on the thin rings . Good luck Jim
http://youtu.be/4K15j9Pq7PE
 
If you have an Etrac then you already have a pinacle flagship of machines, just like the GT is. Many do though own BBS units for various unique aspects to them, such as their rich detailed voice on target traits, or for less fuss tweaking in various mineralized sand/salt beach environments or in the soil. All machines have a particular unique aspect to them, just like every woman has her own qualities and strengths.

One of the reasons why the Excalibur is so popular is simple "by feel" adjustment of it's controls when your hand is under water tweaking the dials, or it's low profile sleek pod for minimum water drag. The Sovereigns are popular for the beach for the same reasons, or by way to be able to go amphibious with just chest mounting it right out of the box. All the stock and aftermarket coils have extra long coil cables for this reason, and also so people can hip or chest mount on land if they desire with either machine.

In my mineralized soils/sands, I've owned a bunch of machines over the years, but by far BBS is the smoothest ride for me over my grounds, with less fudging of things like sensitivity from here to there as I move around a site to get things stable again. It punches as deep as I've ever seen with my GT and even the stock coil in terms of what I've owned or used over the years, and seems to sniff out non-ferrous items in iron with Iron Mask turned ON almost like magic.

The conductivity resolution of the Sovereign with it's 180 meter is super high in the foil to copper penny range, which is useful for sniping out nickels because they read distinctively lower than round or square tabs, or for say going after rings, buttons, or certain old coins that read lower on the scale, while avoiding a billion tabs or other junk at land sites.

Far as all coins above copper penny goes, when it comes to old coin hunting I only have two rules at public sites- If it's shallow it must be mixed in trash, or if it's deep and perhaps beyond the reach of other machines. In those two cases I just want to know it's a coin, because I've owned machines with the ability to split hairs on clads and silvers, and have dug plenty of silvers that I thought were going to be clads, due to the super thin conductivity resolutions between various coin types above copper penny. For that reason I don't really care what kind of coin I suspect it is when after the old stuff.

Minerals, being on edge, masking, being worn, dry conditions...All these things I have seen cause a nice silver to read like even copper or zinc pennies over the years, so in a sense a "bigger net catches more fish", where I just want an easy grab on the VDI telling me "COIN' and then I'm digging. Audio is still king though, but the VDI on the Sovereign is tied rather directly to it's audio ouput, so what you hear is what you see- No lag time on that, and it'll ID just about almost as deep as it will see.

Whether you should get a GT or not is a tough question. Only you'll know, and probably only after using one for a while, whether you really can use a second machine for your particular hunting style and traits in a machine that jell well with your personality. If you don't mesh well with the odd little quirks a machine relates to indicate certain things, then you'll never push it to the very edge of it's abilities. I'd suggest you borrow one from somebody for a while and use it, but even then it takes many hours usually to get past the hate for the Sovereign and begin to start seeing what it really can offer...
 
GroundScanner said:
Ok , so i asked alot about the Sov GT, and i have a E-Trac and before i get the GT , has anyone use the E-Trac on the salt beaches and if so, is it as good as the GT . I also asked this question an the E-Trac forum but not to many answered. Thanks for any responses

The Etrac is even better but its in a package thats tough to do what you can do with a Sov. I use my Etrac on salt water beaches here in NJ, its great in the wet sand and dry sand but you gotta be careful near the waves coming up as water can shoot up the shaft fairly easy.
If your anywhere near Ocean County in NJ send me a PM and I can hook up with you at the beach and show you.
 
I hesitate to do so, but since this is the Sovereign forum I feel a little retort is in order just to defend this fine machine...I've compared and contrasted the Etrac on undug targets for a few years with people and used it a bit in the field, and at least with the 12x10 on my GT I have yet to see neither machine as what I'd call "better" in the respects that count for me when we've compared undug targets in the field with each other.

Badly masked coins, super deep, on edge, and combinations of all three, we've compared extensive notes and not a dime's worth of difference between them on undug targets when we call each other over to compare, working our way around them to judge the response of both machines. I'm even now pulling my headphone plug just to make sure everybody has a good grasp on the comparisons. The GT will hold it's own against anything out there, in particular with a 12x10 on it, although by far even the stock 10" Tornado is no slouch either when I used to use that on land.

The term better all depends on what you jell with. I have used an Etrac and prefer the GT. With these Minelabs it all comes down to coil choice for the given site and day, far as I've seen. And I mean that. If I thought otherwise I would have long since moved on, because I never like to think I'm somehow using a less good "stick" than the next guy in my hunting circles. At least in my mineralized soils, better is a very relative term. All I care about performance wise is depth, unmasking (separation), detailed audio, and stability. Lastly but no less important to me is *conductivity* resolution. I can snipe out nickel signals, among other intersting low or mid conductivity targets, with far less junk dug such as tabs, due to the super high conductivity resolution on the 180 meter.

If people want a rough idea of coin type above zinc pennies then for sure the Etrac would be the better choice for them. However, just the other day I got a signal I suspected was a silver dime by how quick it jumped to 180 and the slightly extra sweet tone. Called a friend over and his coin resolution told him clad dime. Called him back over after I saw silver at about 5". Merc dime.

Far as depth goes, most of the time the 12x10 allows me to run full blast manual and it's rock solid stable. Have had a few occurences (rarely) where I'd call over a friend and say "Check out this super deep whisper", and they'd say "I can't hear it", running Auto + 3 and an entirely open screen besides some very minimal iron rejection, and otherwise all the mostly agreed upon "best" settings by the heavy hitters we researched and saved program wise. Even though Auto +3 was riding every high, only after putting it into manual and raising it the last few clicks to full blast could they hear those signals. That right there tells me that they are pretty evenly matched in my soil. Sure, the 12x10 is an aftermarket coil, but if cost is a concern there is still money being saved via a GT.

All these Minelabs are pretty much maxed out in VLF technology IMO. It all comes down to coil choice for the given site and given day IMO, along with which unit you just get along "right" with. Again, if I thought otherwise I'd move on, as I've moved on numerous times over about 20 years, owning many brands and many models over those years, always looking for the particulars I wanted for my personal tastes. Until I see otherwise, I'm staying put, and even if I do one day the GT still says. Too unique of a beast.

That's not brand loyalty speaking, nor model loyalty. I've owned and used many over the years, always looking, always searching, for my wants and needs. Some lacked coil choices, some lacked depth, some lacked separation abilities, some lacked numerous tone alerts, some lacked detailed audio, some lacked stability in my soil or sands, and on and on. Not saying what I found for me is right for others, just saying that one size don't fit all by any means for whatever you're out there looking for. If it did, we wouldn't have many brands and models, that's for sure.

Some of what I find unique in this machine- The numerous tone alerts of a Minelab yet with the long detailed robust audio of say some Whites or the best of the old analog units. It's a low fuss, high stability, extreme depth type of deal to me. And for that reason, for the first time ever, I can honestly say that regardless of what else comes in and out of my line up, this here GT is going to have a very prominent place in my hanger.

What I see, is that every few months when a new smart phone comes out, everybody dumps the old one they just paid big money for mere months ago, and suddenly it's the worst piece of junk that only a short while ago they were praising left and right, just so they can get those extra bells and whistles. I'm the kind of person who asks myself..."Does that mean it answers calls any better, provides clear voices over the phone, or dials calls for me any better here?"

Largely what is driving the consumer market these days is just extra bling, which to me where it counts don't mean a thing IMHO, but that's me. Air pressure sensors on cars, seat warmers, motorized mirrors. Sure, it might make the ride more comfortable, but does it still get you from point A to point B any faster? And now rather than driving and enjoying the ride, I'm spending much of that time monitoring this gauge and that, all the time I've missed the view and joy the ride had to offer.

I recently saw a test, where the same wine was put into two different bottles. One an expensive looking bottle, and one a cheap looking one with a cheesy label. Almost invariable every blind taste test said the more expensive looking bottle was the better wine.

The real place where the rubber meets the road is how people mesh and believe in what they got. If you have the right attitude and more importantly gell well with a detector, then that's 99% of the battle right there. If you go out with the mindset that you are somehow using something "less", then you've pre-judged the results and potential. Seen plenty of newbies over the years head out with a dime store machine and make some amazing finds at spots people considered "dead". All comes down to attitude largely, to push what you got to it's full potential.

Yes, all these Minelabs are like alien technology in terms of performance of VLF in some respects, but the bottom line is that you have to find the machine that gels with your personality and wants in small particulars, just like the deal when finding the right women to love. Some women have these traits, and some have those traits, but that doesn't necessarily make either one of them better. One guy's wife might be the love of his life, but another guy might have thought of her to be his worst nightmare.

As a final thought in these respects, in terms of fishing I know guys who swear by certain lures, and I do as well. We might use those wrong lures for the wrong situations, but I've seen guys catch fish in places they shouldn't with such lures. Why? Because they had confidence in them, and knew how to push those lures to the very edge of fish attracting traits.

Had one guy, a well versed fisherman, laugh at me when he saw me use a surface lure for smallmouth in a river. He was convinced that only a led head jig with a twister or such hopped along the bottom was the best lure, as is often said, to use for smallmouth. After 2 or 3 massive surface blasts, it wasn't long before he was asking if I had a spare for him to use.

We still laugh about that all these years later, and to this day he prefers a surface lure for his river smallie fishing. Is it the best lure for that job? Probably not, but fact is he catches more fish with it usually than any others he uses. He believes, and he likes. Much of what is out there in fishing lures is more about attracting a customer at a store than it is about catching fish. That's most of the battle right there, snaking through that mind field of what you need, versus what looks "best"...
 
Critterhunter said:
I hesitate to do so, but since this is the Sovereign forum I feel a little retort is in order just to defend this fine machine...I've compared and contrasted the Etrac on undug targets for a few years with people and used it a bit in the field, and at least with the 12x10 on my GT I have yet to see neither machine as what I'd call "better" in the respects that count for me when we've compared undug targets in the field with each other.

Badly masked coins, super deep, on edge, and combinations of all three, we've compared extensive notes and not a dime's worth of difference between them on undug targets when we call each other over to compare, working our way around them to judge the response of both machines. I'm even now pulling my headphone plug just to make sure everybody has a good grasp on the comparisons. The GT will hold it's own against anything out there, in particular with a 12x10 on it, although by far even the stock 10" Tornado is no slouch either when I used to use that on land.

The term better all depends on what you jell with. I have used an Etrac and prefer the GT. With these Minelabs it all comes down to coil choice for the given site and day, far as I've seen. And I mean that. If I thought otherwise I would have long since moved on, because I never like to think I'm somehow using a less good "stick" than the next guy in my hunting circles. At least in my mineralized soils, better is a very relative term. All I care about performance wise is depth, unmasking (separation), detailed audio, and stability. Lastly but no less important to me is *conductivity* resolution. I can snipe out nickel signals, among other intersting low or mid conductivity targets, with far less junk dug such as tabs, due to the super high conductivity resolution on the 180 meter.

If people want a rough idea of coin type above zinc pennies then for sure the Etrac would be the better choice for them. However, just the other day I got a signal I suspected was a silver dime by how quick it jumped to 180 and the slightly extra sweet tone. Called a friend over and his coin resolution told him clad dime. Called him back over after I saw silver at about 5". Merc dime.

Far as depth goes, most of the time the 12x10 allows me to run full blast manual and it's rock solid stable. Have had a few occurences (rarely) where I'd call over a friend and say "Check out this super deep whisper", and they'd say "I can't hear it", running Auto + 3 and an entirely open screen besides some very minimal iron rejection, and otherwise all the mostly agreed upon "best" settings by the heavy hitters we researched and saved program wise. Even though Auto +3 was riding every high, only after putting it into manual and raising it the last few clicks to full blast could they hear those signals. That right there tells me that they are pretty evenly matched in my soil. Sure, the 12x10 is an aftermarket coil, but if cost is a concern there is still money being saved via a GT.

All these Minelabs are pretty much maxed out in VLF technology IMO. It all comes down to coil choice for the given site and given day IMO, along with which unit you just get along "right" with. Again, if I thought otherwise I'd move on, as I've moved on numerous times over about 20 years, owning many brands and many models over those years, always looking for the particulars I wanted for my personal tastes. Until I see otherwise, I'm staying put, and even if I do one day the GT still says. Too unique of a beast.

That's not brand loyalty speaking, nor model loyalty. I've owned and used many over the years, always looking, always searching, for my wants and needs. Some lacked coil choices, some lacked depth, some lacked separation abilities, some lacked numerous tone alerts, some lacked detailed audio, some lacked stability in my soil or sands, and on and on. Not saying what I found for me is right for others, just saying that one size don't fit all by any means for whatever you're out there looking for. If it did, we wouldn't have many brands and models, that's for sure.

Some of what I find unique in this machine- The numerous tone alerts of a Minelab yet with the long detailed robust audio of say some Whites or the best of the old analog units. It's a low fuss, high stability, extreme depth type of deal to me. And for that reason, for the first time ever, I can honestly say that regardless of what else comes in and out of my line up, this here GT is going to have a very prominent place in my hanger.

What I see, is that every few months when a new smart phone comes out, everybody dumps the old one they just paid big money for mere months ago, and suddenly it's the worst piece of junk that only a short while ago they were praising left and right, just so they can get those extra bells and whistles. I'm the kind of person who asks myself..."Does that mean it answers calls any better, provides clear voices over the phone, or dials calls for me any better here?"

Largely what is driving the consumer market these days is just extra bling, which to me where it counts don't mean a thing IMHO, but that's me. Air pressure sensors on cars, seat warmers, motorized mirrors. Sure, it might make the ride more comfortable, but does it still get you from point A to point B any faster? And now rather than driving and enjoying the ride, I'm spending much of that time monitoring this gauge and that, all the time I've missed the view and joy the ride had to offer.

I recently saw a test, where the same wine was put into two different bottles. One an expensive looking bottle, and one a cheap looking one with a cheesy label. Almost invariable every blind taste test said the more expensive looking bottle was the better wine.

The real place where the rubber meets the road is how people mesh and believe in what they got. If you have the right attitude and more importantly gell well with a detector, then that's 99% of the battle right there. If you go out with the mindset that you are somehow using something "less", then you've pre-judged the results and potential. Seen plenty of newbies over the years head out with a dime store machine and make some amazing finds at spots people considered "dead". All comes down to attitude largely, to push what you got to it's full potential.

Yes, all these Minelabs are like alien technology in terms of performance of VLF in some respects, but the bottom line is that you have to find the machine that gels with your personality and wants in small particulars, just like the deal when finding the right women to love. Some women have these traits, and some have those traits, but that doesn't necessarily make either one of them better. One guy's wife might be the love of his life, but another guy might have thought of her to be his worst nightmare.

As a final thought in these respects, in terms of fishing I know guys who swear by certain lures, and I do as well. We might use those wrong lures for the wrong situations, but I've seen guys catch fish in places they shouldn't with such lures. Why? Because they had confidence in them, and knew how to push those lures to the very edge of fish attracting traits.

Had one guy, a well versed fisherman, laugh at me when he saw me use a surface lure for smallmouth in a river. He was convinced that only a led head jig with a twister or such hopped along the bottom was the best lure, as is often said, to use for smallmouth. After 2 or 3 massive surface blasts, it wasn't long before he was asking if I had a spare for him to use.

We still laugh about that all these years later, and to this day he prefers a surface lure for his river smallie fishing. Is it the best lure for that job? Probably not, but fact is he catches more fish with it usually than any others he uses. He believes, and he likes. Much of what is out there in fishing lures is more about attracting a customer at a store than it is about catching fish. That's most of the battle right there, snaking through that mind field of what you need, versus what looks "best"...

He asked about the Etrac on salt water beaches. I gave the best honest answer I could and even offered to meet with the gentleman. Since when does honesty have to be contested, especially by someone who has never used either an Etrac or Sovereign on a salt water beach? Do you really have to reply to every post on this forum which I thought was for all our use, not just yours?
 
That was a lot of dribble to read thru that didnt really have to do with the question. The ET works very well on the beach. But like Neil said you can neck mount the Sov to keep the box a little farther away from the water and off the shaft. Where as you have to be very care with the ET water will push up the shaft as the waves comes in. I use an Exp and have for years thou id like to have a Sov i just cant get off the money for a machine thats not going to give me much advantage. Simple on the beach is always best because you are digging everything..... but i prefer a TID screen for off the beach hunting to better pick thru the trash.

Dew
 
dewcon4414 said:
That was a lot of dribble to read thru that didnt really have to do with the question. The ET works very well on the beach. But like Neil said you can neck mount the Sov to keep the box a little farther away from the water and off the shaft. Where as you have to be very care with the ET water will push up the shaft as the waves comes in. I use an Exp and have for years thou id like to have a Sov i just cant get off the money for a machine thats not going to give me much advantage. Simple on the beach is always best because you are digging everything..... but i prefer a TID screen for off the beach hunting to better pick thru the trash.

Dew

I agree with Dew... while I enjoy Critter's posts and finds them educational for the most part, I sometimes wonder if he's "paid by the word" at work ;) . I haven't used an ET at the beach but I would take NO OTHER MACHINE than my Sovereign Elite to the beach if I planned on nothing deeper than ankle deep water. My Sov Elite kicked an MXT Pro's butt yesterday at the beach. It's operator even walked right over a couple good targets and didn't even hesitate over them. That Sov Elite when used properly is a MONSTER on the beach, but I really would like a different machine for Relic hunting on dry land with a VDI readout, so I still plan on getting an MXT Pro.

BTW, I know yesterday has more to do with the operator than the machine missing those targets.

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Don't type on a computer at work, and although I am now working in a technical field I went to school for, I'm still in training and so not getting full time hours yet, where when that's done I'll be able to roam off on my own more and not just be called in to learn or help out where I can.

I don't make apologies for being able to type nor read fast. After all, that is what the scroll bar is for. Rather than complain about the content of a post or it's nature of importance to me, I just scroll right by and leave it at that. Not my place to tell people how to enjoy this hobby, like such things as seeded hunts or say going after old bullets being seemingly pointless to me.

Why would I feel it's my place to make such decisions and comment on them? I don't, and so I won't, and so don't feel it's anybody's place to do the same to me. Big world out there, and even bigger arena of opinions. If I were to try to micromanage what I thought others should be talking about, or how they should be talking about it, then that would seem like a lot of wasted energy on my part. It's the "whatever floats your boat" type of thing to me.

I have numerous people who I talk with privately, both in PMs and in Emails, that won't dare make a post to share their opinions in open forums on the web after seeing how others have been treated in the past just for differences of opinion on such things as trivial in the big picture of life as metal detectors. They at least know that if I don't agree with them, that I won't take issue with them in such a way as to put them down.

The whole golden rule thing, and while I fall far short of that, I try to when I can. More often than not, it seems when people disagree on opinions, instead of debating those they resort to other diversions that in some way they feel are scoring some points. I don't really care about that stuff, and would rather hear their view on why they disagree, and not have it divert into some other non-related point of contention, which to me shows a lack of material to support their opinion, but that's me...
 
Critterhunter said:
Don't type on a computer at work, and although I am now working in a technical field I went to school for, I'm still in training and so not getting full time hours yet, where when that's done I'll be able to roam off on my own more and not just be called in to learn or help out where I can.

I don't make apologies for being able to type nor read fast. After all, that is what the scroll bar is for. Rather than complain about the content of a post or it's nature of importance to me, I just scroll right by and leave it at that. Not my place to tell people how to enjoy this hobby, like such things as seeded hunts or say going after old bullets being seemingly pointless to me.

Why would I feel it's my place to make such decisions and comment on them? I don't, and so I won't, and so don't feel it's anybody's place to do the same to me. Big world out there, and even bigger arena of opinions. If I were to try to micromanage what I thought others should be talking about, or how they should be talking about it, then that would seem like a lot of wasted energy on my part. It's the "whatever floats your boat" type of thing to me.

I have numerous people who I talk with privately, both in PMs and in Emails, that won't dare make a post to share their opinions in open forums on the web after seeing how others have been treated in the past just for differences of opinion on such things as trivial in the big picture of life as metal detectors. They at least know that if I don't agree with them, that I won't take issue with them in such a way as to put them down.

The whole golden rule thing, and while I fall far short of that, I try to when I can. More often than not, it seems when people disagree on opinions, instead of debating those they resort to other diversions that in some way they feel are scoring some points. I don't really care about that stuff, and would rather hear their view on why they disagree, and not have it divert into some other non-related point of contention, which to me shows a lack of material to support their opinion, but that's me...

Hey Critter, no offense man... I just do find your posts (and a few of the videos I've seen) very very verbose. Not that that is a bad thing, you pack a lot of knowledge into them. I worked in a tech field with engineers and you remind me a lot of them. I kind of assumed you were an engineering sort. Again man, no offense intended!
 
I used to own an E-Trac and used it on the beaches. The problem as everyone says is that it is not waterproof or even water resistant. Salt water likes to travel up the shaft if you raise the coil and it will get into the control head.

After figuring out that a whole lot more gold is in the water and on the beaches than on land, I decided to make the Excalibur my machine. Its all I ever use now even on dry land. I want to know it so well that I can tell every little chirp it makes. I've owned several and my latest is the Excalibur II with the SEF 10x12 and a custom pair of removable headphones. I did have the remote pin point switch but it started to give me trouble with water incursion even though it was rated at IP68. I use pin point almost always so that was not a big issue but I did like the remote switch.

Getting back to the E-Trac, it was very deep for me on the beaches. It was great in the dry sand. The big problem was that I was getting too cocky with it near the water and it took a dunking a few times. Not enough to destroy it but enough to have to had to send it in to be looked at. I did have a bottle of distilled water and flushed it out but I wanted to make sure that it was OK.

The E-Trac is at home on dry land and is a dry land machine. It is not meant to be near the water and so I would recommend not using it near salt water especially.
The sea has a way of drawing you to it and the anticipation of a nice big gold ring in the surf is just too much to resist. You will be tempted to go too close to the water with the E-Trac and that will get you into trouble.
 
Finderskeeper said:
I used to own an E-Trac and used it on the beaches. The problem as everyone says is that it is not waterproof or even water resistant. Salt water likes to travel up the shaft if you raise the coil and it will get into the control head.

After figuring out that a whole lot more gold is in the water and on the beaches than on land, I decided to make the Excalibur my machine. Its all I ever use now even on dry land. I want to know it so well that I can tell every little chirp it makes. I've owned several and my latest is the Excalibur II with the SEF 10x12 and a custom pair of removable headphones. I did have the remote pin point switch but it started to give me trouble with water incursion even though it was rated at IP68. I use pin point almost always so that was not a big issue but I did like the remote switch.

Getting back to the E-Trac, it was very deep for me on the beaches. It was great in the dry sand. The big problem was that I was getting too cocky with it near the water and it took a dunking a few times. Not enough to destroy it but enough to have to had to send it in to be looked at. I did have a bottle of distilled water and flushed it out but I wanted to make sure that it was OK.

The E-Trac is at home on dry land and is a dry land machine. It is not meant to be near the water and so I would recommend not using it near salt water especially.
The sea has a way of drawing you to it and the anticipation of a nice big gold ring in the surf is just too much to resist. You will be tempted to go too close to the water with the E-Trac and that will get you into trouble.
I had a DFX for years with a 12x10 coil i would use it sometimes on beaches very shallow water no more then ankle deep what i did was i put a tether on the end of the shaft attached to my should strap just long enough so if it did slip it would not go any further then my waist it worked a few times while using the scoop i just had to remember not to bend down to far lol . HH Jim
 
Finderskeeper said:
I used to own an E-Trac and used it on the beaches. The problem as everyone says is that it is not waterproof or even water resistant. Salt water likes to travel up the shaft if you raise the coil and it will get into the control head.

After figuring out that a whole lot more gold is in the water and on the beaches than on land, I decided to make the Excalibur my machine. Its all I ever use now even on dry land. I want to know it so well that I can tell every little chirp it makes. I've owned several and my latest is the Excalibur II with the SEF 10x12 and a custom pair of removable headphones. I did have the remote pin point switch but it started to give me trouble with water incursion even though it was rated at IP68. I use pin point almost always so that was not a big issue but I did like the remote switch.

Getting back to the E-Trac, it was very deep for me on the beaches. It was great in the dry sand. The big problem was that I was getting too cocky with it near the water and it took a dunking a few times. Not enough to destroy it but enough to have to had to send it in to be looked at. I did have a bottle of distilled water and flushed it out but I wanted to make sure that it was OK.

The E-Trac is at home on dry land and is a dry land machine. It is not meant to be near the water and so I would recommend not using it near salt water especially.
The sea has a way of drawing you to it and the anticipation of a nice big gold ring in the surf is just too much to resist. You will be tempted to go too close to the water with the E-Trac and that will get you into trouble.


Been walloped more times than I can remember by trying to dig those signals that are at the lowest point of low tide, thinking I can beat the waves. Luckily its mostly been a pants soaking and havent damaged my Etrac but I gave a few Explorers a sprinkling:detecting:
With my Sov hung around my neck I get in a little deeper and no worries.
 
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