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Rough day with the e today...

Shawnbo42

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So, went out detecting today to two sites, one new, one I've been to before. Tried the new site for an hour and a half, got two wheat pennies. The house was built around 1790, so I was really disappointed, I expected to find more. Also while there, my shovel and detector had an accidental meeting, and now I've got a nice scratch vertically across the display. Argh! Then, on to the second site. This home was built in 1765, I've pulled some large cents out of there, got a reale the beginning of the year, and....nothing else until the wheatie era. I'm not sure why I can't seem to find anything between 1827 (my newest large cent), and 1909 (wheatie found today). I did get one v nickel (1893) in a coin spill with a bunch of wheaties, and one barber dime in another coin spill, but that's it. By the amount of wheat pennies and clad, I should be hitting seateds practically every other step or so. Anyways, went to there for a couple hours. Had fast and deep on, sensitivity up around 27, and got three wheaties. I haven't found silver in over a month now, starting to question whether it's me not putting the coil in the right place, or my settings not right on the detector. I don't understand with the second site, as I've found the large cents and the reale at no more than six inches, and yet I'm diigging wheaties at 10+ sometimes? Anybody have any advice, it would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
 
Condratulations on finding the largies out of there and other old coins.:thumbup:
About your questions, I really dont have any idea :shrug:
 
Shawnbo42 said:
So, went out detecting today to two sites, one new, one I've been to before. Tried the new site for an hour and a half, got two wheat pennies. The house was built around 1790, so I was really disappointed, I expected to find more. Also while there, my shovel and detector had an accidental meeting, and now I've got a nice scratch vertically across the display. Argh! Then, on to the second site. This home was built in 1765, I've pulled some large cents out of there, got a reale the beginning of the year, and....nothing else until the wheatie era. I'm not sure why I can't seem to find anything between 1827 (my newest large cent), and 1909 (wheatie found today). I did get one v nickel (1893) in a coin spill with a bunch of wheaties, and one barber dime in another coin spill, but that's it. By the amount of wheat pennies and clad, I should be hitting seateds practically every other step or so. Anyways, went to there for a couple hours. Had fast and deep on, sensitivity up around 27, and got three wheaties. I haven't found silver in over a month now, starting to question whether it's me not putting the coil in the right place, or my settings not right on the detector. I don't understand with the second site, as I've found the large cents and the reale at no more than six inches, and yet I'm diigging wheaties at 10+ sometimes? Anybody have any advice, it would be greatly appreciated, thanks!

Hi Shawn.

Ain't life a bitch some times,(scratching your screen).

I let a mate have a go with my E-Trac, and he got some dirt on the screen, then wiped it off....one big scratch.

So I know the feeling....we try so hard to keep things pristine, then old man fate pokes his nose in and scuppers our best efforts.

The old home sites searching.....Only one suggestion, and I always seem to be repeating myself..

Ferrous audio....Two tones or more....no squealing multi tones. The simpler the better as far as I'm concerned.

Fast on.....the rest determined by you, on site.

Manual Sens 24...which should take you down to 12 inches on normal soil.

Set your iron mask to 27Fe level in QUICK SCREEN, then transfer it into SMART SCREEN....

Then, in TTF mode....(Ferrous tones) DIG EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING, that gives a repeatable audio...REGARDLESS of high or low Ferrous tone.

YOU HAVE KNOCKED OUT 99% of any iron with the Fe 27 mask.....So every other audio signal is hopefully due to a NON-FERROUS target or combinational masking thereof.

Your post indicates that you are doing everything as best you can for your situations. As for a lack of silver.....If you aren't getting it then I would suggest that it ain't there for the taking.

Remember..Silver is the EASIEST to find, but far less likely to be lost...pro rata it intrinsic value to who ever it belong.

I may not be bothered by dropping a penny...but certainly more careful with my silver pocket money.

Imagine the ratio of coppers to silver in any folks pocket during that era?

Any thoughts.....

Any ways Shawn... Please try TTF and a 'generously' open Smart screen for those old properties.

Don't swing TOO SLOWLY....some folk search/reconnoitre at too slow a sweep rate.....It's OK once you've homed in on a target... but surprisingly to some....you can sweep too slowly, and put your E-Trac's motion circuitry at a dis-advantage.

Test what I say by experimenting over an un-dug target. That way you may realise just what are your tolerances... rate-to responses.

Sweeping too slowly, and you E-Trac's first ground filter will possibly attenuate a good target's 'rate-of-change'....i.e. degrade the very characteristic which every motion detector uses to differentiate 'slow- ground' signals from those 'faster-rate of- change' signals associated with good, concise targets

We're getting a bit technical now, so I'll leave it at that...unless you wish to enquire further on the subject.

p.s. The E-Trac is a 'faster' machine than earlier Explorers....by design.....so they don't necessarily require the slower rate of searching.

Hope you give those old properties another going-over....take your time....stand still and really interrogate any spot showing signs of potential.

Good luck Shawn................Matt


TheMarshall.

P.P.S.

DON'T....be put off when PINPOINTING SHOWS AN IRON TARGET in QUICK-MASK when using the latter to check a 'good-target' whilst hunting in SMART-SCREEN.

GET RID OF THE IRON....THEN RE-LOCATE THE GOOD TARGET using SMART SCREEN.
 
I just don't think you've gotten your coil over silver yet. You're diggin' the wheaties, and for me, the barbers and seateds will more likely come in the wheatie range than the silver range. Especially if they're worn.

Hang in there and keep it up! [attachment 226856 Hang-in-There-300x225.jpg]

NebTrac
 
yeah! if you are diggin' wheats at 10" you got NOTHIN' to worry about!
are you kiddin' me? trust me,it's just because ya have not hit the silver that's all!
been huntin' for 34 years,and if i hit a wheaty,i'm "stoked" period,because i am almost "dead nuts" sure there's silver around
somewhere,and if ya keep hittin' it ya gonna find it! why? because if the silver was "stripped" from the site,so would
be the wheaties!..this IS true! relax! nothin' wrong with the trac!..just sayin'

(h.h.!)
j.t.
 
Your settings aren't the issue. The coil just isn't passing over any silver. You're finding Wheats at 10". I hit a few Wheats today, and then 2 Barber dimes and a Merc. All 3 of those were less than 4 inches deep. If the ETRAC's coil goes over it, you'll get it.
 
Matt, thanks for the help. I went back yesterday, got a clad nickel and a key in an area that I've covered more than once. I was using two tone ferrous, and swinging a bit faster that I was previously. Still got some junk but it wasn't too much. Then my battery died. So, off to charge and get back to it! Thanks to all the other guys for the advice as well, it is much appreciated.
 
great day! what were your settings?..thanks!

(h.h.!)
j.t.
 
When I found the clad nickel and the key, I was using two tone ferrous, manual sens at 25 and fast on deep off. I've been using ttf a lot more last couple of days, and I went to a new site. Picked up a 1916 wheatie, 2 v nickels, and an 8 reale in very bad shape. Went back last night and got a 1904 barber dime, and 3 barber quarters in a coin spill. Those quarters had been gone over previously by my buddy with an ace 350, and he didn't even ring them out! I am liking the etrac more every time I use it!
 
Sounds like your going about it in right direction. Finding old deep coins isn't always easy. Takes dedication.
 
Tom @&%$!*++ says there is so much masking going on that most of all the silver left is prolly coverd by a layer of iron,,,,,, we're all walking over it every day,,,,, the trick is to hit it at different angles or start pulling the masks off,,,,(dig the trash to uncover the goddies),,,, if it were easy,,,,,(you know the rest)
 
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