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Rookie E trac user question

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cometguy

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Guys, I am a rookie on the E trac. I have been trying it for a month or so and struggling a little. When I hit a coin I hear the great E trac response and dig the coin. I have perfected the wiggle pin point. I have modified programs and installed other people's user modes. Last night I got into a new yard. I got 2 quarters, 2 dimes, 16 memorials and four wheats. The oldest coin was 1930. Everything was five to 7 inches deep. I had no trouble hearing, predicting and digging these coins. I kept thinking I would find silver or something really deep. It didn't happen last night.
My question is about those deeper signals. Will they be just as distinct as my six inch deep ones? I think if I slow down a little and really listen I will get deeper targets. Are the deeper targets the same kind of great warble tone only fainter? I love the videos where people let you hear the tone3s they are hearing. I have no Minelab folks close to me to compare signals. I guess I am looking for a little hint about what my deeper ones will sound like. I think my frustration with the E trac has been because I am hunting pounded sites and chasing high tones that hit one time from one direction. I think I am trying way too hard to get that marginal signal that turns out to be something good.


Thanks, Don
 
They'll be just as distinct Don. I don't know what soil type or where your Sensitivity is at. I have one IH to my name at an honest 12". It was the sound that stopped me. The numbers were "ugly", but the sound made me stop. On those deeper targets the sound is usually the same.

NebTrac
 
The sound is the same unless there is trash but I expect you know that trash will mess with it. You say you think you need to slow down, just how fast are you swinging now? Are you digging signals that only hit one way and if so what do you come up with? Last question, where are you located? There might be someone else near you that you don't know about.
 
Hi Jeff,
My one way hits have been losers. That is part of the reason I was getting discouraged. Even my mixed signals with high numbers have been bad. I always thought I would find the gold ring or the coin mixed with iron and so far nothing positive. I am in Central Indiana. I think the soil is not too bad. I can't really tell you how fast I am swinging but I use an F75 that I whirl like a windmill. That habit makes me think the E trac needs to go slower. Last night I only dug signals that hit all four sides and I collected 24 coins, pocket knife, and a tootsie toy. It was a new yard for me. I did dig some pull tabs and can slaw. Thanks for asking.

Don
 
Don where in Indiana are you? I am in NW Ohio, about 35 min from Ft wayne....if your not too far maybe we can meet up sometime
 
Hey Terry,
We have talked, I am friends with Joel, who you have showed around. Maybe we can talk sometime.

Thanks, Don
 
Its a rare thing for a one way hit from the Etrac to turn up good. I bet those one way hits would not be "One Way" if you open up the screen. Its iron trying to fool you. I bet it pops and snaps if you turn just a little. The Etrac is generally very honest, I mean a good two way hit that has a good steady conductive number in the coin range will be a coin. The ferrous number will change more often and if it changes alot then you have something else close by or its junk. If the ferrous number goes up in the twenties you have a much smaller chance of seeing a coin.
Someone here posted anything above 27 is always trash, I tend to pass up a 24. I assume you are talking about the rectangular pull tab? They will jump above the 13 to 14, 15 or 16 if you turn a little and when you pinpoint you can "Feel" the target is longer one way and the pipoint may move just a little. The pinpoint feature on the Etrac is almost as important as the screen numbers. That Pro-Coil is amazing at what it does! As you pinpoint you can learn to "Feel" you way thru the size of the target. I will often go back and forth from pinpoint to discriminate over a target before I dig because I want to be absolutely certain of what it is. I dig very little junk unless the targets are few and far between then I will get a little dig happy just to see what I have.

Keep at it and ask away her on the forum. Alot of these guys here are very good with this machine and can always help you out.

HH
 
Ensure your gain is at 28-30. Ensure your disc is set 27. Two way or better hits are what you're after. And the hit needs to be in the same place. If you get a 2 way hit and it seems to hit in a different spot everytime or most of your sweeps suspect iron. Watch your quickmask screen. I've found if the number 50 conductive comes lots of time IRON. If the target makes COND # it bounce to say the 27 or lower dig it. Watch your swing speed, go slow. Don't be afraid to run manual sensivity to say at least 25 and deal with any falsing. One way to gauge if you are swinging to fast is listen to threshold. If it's blanking in and out slow down and see if it improves. You really can't swing the etrac too slow. That's one of its advantages over many detectors.
 
cometguy said:
Hi Jeff,
My one way hits have been losers. That is part of the reason I was getting discouraged. Even my mixed signals with high numbers have been bad. I always thought I would find the gold ring or the coin mixed with iron and so far nothing positive. I am in Central Indiana. I think the soil is not too bad. I can't really tell you how fast I am swinging but I use an F75 that I whirl like a windmill. That habit makes me think the E trac needs to go slower. Last night I only dug signals that hit all four sides and I collected 24 coins, pocket knife, and a tootsie toy. It was a new yard for me. I did dig some pull tabs and can slaw. Thanks for asking.

Don
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Your getting there! Keep at it! Great place to learn here.
 
I have noticed deep coins on edge or tilted slightly will leave the warble stage and sound more of a cliped type tone at 9'' or deeper on some of the deeper coins I have dug.
 
usually for me the numbers are all screwy but the deep coins still have a repeatability (sound and location) to them that falsing and chatter type sounds and signals dont have.
 
Deep coins will always show varability the bottom line identify the sound and if it repeats dig it. I use multi tone but on deep targets I use a three step process that has worked for me I use then check the signal with two tone ferrous then I use the screen wide open and see where the cursor falls it takes on couple minutes a quarter of the time of digging deep iron or trash. Ps I hope it helps Steve
 
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