RLOH, I have a question for you. . .

[Tony N (Michigan)]

RLOH, you wrote this:

All Metal Hunting With C$
Posted by: RLOH <Send a PM> (IP Logged)
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Date: October 15, 07:24PM


I have been having super luck with my new, used C$ and today I had the perfect opportunity to use the all metal mode. I was hunting a large grassy hill in a park that is 75 years old. Targets were few and far between so I thought I would try the all metal. Within a short distance, I got a signal reading 36 to 38. I flipped back to my disc program and I got an ever so weak signal. I probably would have missed it because it was so weak. It did repeat though in disc. At 12 inches, I saw silver, it was a 1945 Washington quarter. The ground on this hill is very soft and wet. Two feet away I get another hit in all metal. Checked it again in disc and it was there, but weak. From 10 inches two wheaties from the 20's. I ended up with three more wheaties, all from 8 to 10 inches and all weak, but audible in disc. The lesson I learned today was this detector is deep and and deep coins can be found in disc, but a good set of phones is a neccessity. I also have a CZ6a with a Sunray probe on it and as much as I love that detector, I have not picked it up in the last three weeks since I got my C$. The C$ feels like a feather compared to the CZ. I know there is not much difference in weight, but the C$ is perfectly balanced. I guess you might be able to notice how much I like this detector. R.L.

Tony's reply:
I realize this is a little late but just found this post of yours.

Do you remember your settings and coil size?

That is amazing, a quarter at that depth and pennies at that depth.

Also, when detecting in all metal, is your sound rather not very crisp?

 

[Tony N (Michigan)]

n/t

 

[RLOH]

Tony, the soil was real wet and this particular hill's grass is cut with big tractors. I have found clad quarters 7 to 8 inches deep. My setttings were sens 7, thresh -5, iron disc 99, nothing notched out, and volulme 10. I always ground balance in all metal and I only lift the coil 4 or 5 inches. I always get the beep confirming that ground balancing was successful. The audio in all metal is sort of mushy. Sorry I took so long to respond. R.L.

 

[Tony N (Michigan)]

O.K. that lets me know by your settings and how you do your setup that I am doing things right. No wonder I'm getting monster depth!

I ground balance just a little differently. I too place my detector in all metal then I place my coil on the ground and lift it just a little above where I'll be swinging the coil. I wonder if this is wrong. It is a little positive when I bob the coil up and down in all metal. I've heard and experienced myself in my coin garden that a little positive GB gets better depth but it *might* be just a little unstable in some instances.

Some places I can run sensitivity up to 10 but I leave my threshold around -5 to 0 as long as it is stable. I've heard of the 525 setting.

Do you think -5 0 is too hot?

In iron infested sites with a lot of square nails do you have a best setting?

 

[RLOH]

Tony, I always start out with a threshold of 0 and a sens of 7 and go from there. If the detector is unstable, I lower the sens to 6 and the threshold to -5 and if needed -10. I almost never go below a sens of 6, but I did experiment with the 525 setting and it worked great in the short time I tried it. My problem is I have been finding loads of older coins with the setup that I have been using so I don't want to play around too much. The only complaint I have with the C$ is rusty bottle caps. They seem to ring in about 35 to 38 and pinpoint just like a coin. If anybody has any tips to get rid of them, I would appreciate the advice. If you don't mind alot of tones, try hunting with nothing notched out. This is the setup that I hear the deep targets that I found in all metal. I only notch foil and tabs when I get into extreme trash. It seems that I lose a couple of inches of depth with these notches on. I know that this in not exact, but I have played with these settings alot and that is the conclusion I have came to. Not an exact science though. I wish I had one more month of hunting because I am getting close to figuring this detector out. R.L.

 

[Tony N (Michigan)]

Oh yes the rusty bottle caps.

I have not tested this on the Coin$trike but on my Minelab Muskateer (which is in reality a relic machine and likes iron) I can tell if the item is a rusty bottle cap or not by lifting the coil a little and very quickly waving the coil back and forth across where the item is. In other words I note where the item is, and from about a foot or two away I very quickly swing the coil across the target about a foot or two past it and repeat this. If the signal disappears it is a rusty bottle cap.

It might work on the C$. I don't know. Give it a try and let me know how it works.

 

[RLOH]

Tony, thanks for the info. Sounds like it might just work. R.L.