I currently own a Tesoro Vaquero , which I love. However, I would like to get a new detector to add on. I do mostly relic and coin hunting. I was looking for advice on a good machine with different tones and VID fin the 600 dollar range. I have read a lot about the AT Pro, which looks like a good one. I was hoping to find out about other nice ones out there. Any input is greatly appreciated!
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Researching new detectors
- Thread starter Joe6112
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On the Detectors For Sale forum, theres a really sweet AtPro rig that Saving the Past has listed...wireless phones, 2 coils, pinpointer, etc...thats one heck of a deal you should pounce on if you have the money right now...
AtPro has an active forum full of helpful people to assist your learning curve...its proven itself to some very long time dirt artists that have been highly favorable towards its abilities..
Mud
AtPro has an active forum full of helpful people to assist your learning curve...its proven itself to some very long time dirt artists that have been highly favorable towards its abilities..
Mud
asked elsewhere about suggestions. You popped on the Nokta/Makro Detector Forum about 6 days ago and wondered about the Racer and after-the-sale service. Haven't heard much from you or if you have made a decision or just had more questions, but let me throw in my thoughts, if you don't mind.
"I currently own a Tesoro Vaquero, which I love." .. Okay.
Questions: How long have you been detecting? How long have you used the Vaquero? Which search coils do you have and use with the Vaquero? What is it about the Vaquero that you love it, and what is lacking that makes you look for another detector?
What types of sites, and their conditions, do you usually search for your Coin Hunting and Relic Hunting?
"I was looking for advice on a good machine with different tones and VID fin the 600 dollar range." ... The VID should be VDI. VID would be an abbreviation for Video. VDI is a reference to Visual Discrimination Indicator, which is a numeric read-out. Essentially it is just another form of Target ID and, in my opinion, the best and most universal type of Target ID
'Tone' is an interesting topic for discussion in any group, be it two people or a room-full. Personally, I am not a big fan of any multi-tone detector with the exception being White's XLT. I feel that had that perfected pretty well for the type of circuitry it has and I used it on occasion, but not all the time. On models with a limited number of audio tones I still do not use many of them all that much.
I like the Teknetics Omega, but I liked the 4-Tone ID audio for urban coin hunting in certain popular-use areas, but otherwise preferred the 2-Tone audio ID for probably 75% of my detecting with that model. White's M6 and MXT Pro have a selectable 7-Tone audio ID, and their MX5 has an 8-Tone audio ID, but I almost never use them as I find them annoying. Instead, on the MX5 and MXT Pro I prefer to hunt with a 2-Tone Audio ID. Unfortunately, they do not offer a VCO enhanced search mode with those detectors.
I still have my MX5 as a loaner unit, and my MXT All-Pro is one of the models I like to keep in my vehicle for travels, like I will head out on later today to thin out some keepers, I hope, from an Oregon ghost town. But it isn't my #1 All-Purpose detector now because that spot is held by two other detectors. The Nokta FORS Co-Re and Makro Racer. These two models offer very similar in-the-field performance, both have 4 similar search modes, and share similar adjustment functions. One of the things that got my respect for them is that their design offers to easy-to-select primary Discrimination modes which provide different Tone ID designs.
They have a 2-Tone search mode that has a 'static' Lower Tone for most ferrous-range targets, and a higher VCO enhanced Tone ID for most non-ferrous targets. I like this option for hunting sparse to moderately trashy sites. They also have a 3-Tone Audio ID that I found to work great. It has a 'static' Low Tone for most ferrous-type targets, a min-range Tone ID for low-to-moderate non-ferrous Conductivity targets, and a High Tone for the higher-Conductivity targets. The three 'static' Tones [size=small](not VCO complemented)[/size] provide the operator with a search mode that has it's own individual adjustments for Gain and Discrimination, and this allows the operator to quickly shift on-the-fly from 2-Tone w/VCO to a 3-Tone mode with settings as desired.
Also an option to shift to a Threshold-based All Metal mode or a 1 or 2-Tone VCO 'Beach' mode [size=small](it can be 2-Tone if you can reduce the Discrimination a little below '40' but usually that setting is needed to help deal with wetted salts)[/size].
If you are looking for a detector in the ± $600 range, you might like the White's MX5 ($599.95) or M6 ($699.95), or the Teknetics Omega ($599), but I honestly believe you should check-ot and handle the Nokta FORS CoRe ($699) or Makro Racer ($649) as they are very serious contenders against a lot of the competition at even double their price. [size=small](MSRP's shown for comparison.)[/size]
Let folks know when you have made a decision and what it is .... and why.
Monte
Points mentioned and thing left out.:Joe6112 said:
"I currently own a Tesoro Vaquero, which I love." .. Okay.
Questions: How long have you been detecting? How long have you used the Vaquero? Which search coils do you have and use with the Vaquero? What is it about the Vaquero that you love it, and what is lacking that makes you look for another detector?
What types of sites, and their conditions, do you usually search for your Coin Hunting and Relic Hunting?
"I was looking for advice on a good machine with different tones and VID fin the 600 dollar range." ... The VID should be VDI. VID would be an abbreviation for Video. VDI is a reference to Visual Discrimination Indicator, which is a numeric read-out. Essentially it is just another form of Target ID and, in my opinion, the best and most universal type of Target ID
'Tone' is an interesting topic for discussion in any group, be it two people or a room-full. Personally, I am not a big fan of any multi-tone detector with the exception being White's XLT. I feel that had that perfected pretty well for the type of circuitry it has and I used it on occasion, but not all the time. On models with a limited number of audio tones I still do not use many of them all that much.
I like the Teknetics Omega, but I liked the 4-Tone ID audio for urban coin hunting in certain popular-use areas, but otherwise preferred the 2-Tone audio ID for probably 75% of my detecting with that model. White's M6 and MXT Pro have a selectable 7-Tone audio ID, and their MX5 has an 8-Tone audio ID, but I almost never use them as I find them annoying. Instead, on the MX5 and MXT Pro I prefer to hunt with a 2-Tone Audio ID. Unfortunately, they do not offer a VCO enhanced search mode with those detectors.
I still have my MX5 as a loaner unit, and my MXT All-Pro is one of the models I like to keep in my vehicle for travels, like I will head out on later today to thin out some keepers, I hope, from an Oregon ghost town. But it isn't my #1 All-Purpose detector now because that spot is held by two other detectors. The Nokta FORS Co-Re and Makro Racer. These two models offer very similar in-the-field performance, both have 4 similar search modes, and share similar adjustment functions. One of the things that got my respect for them is that their design offers to easy-to-select primary Discrimination modes which provide different Tone ID designs.
They have a 2-Tone search mode that has a 'static' Lower Tone for most ferrous-range targets, and a higher VCO enhanced Tone ID for most non-ferrous targets. I like this option for hunting sparse to moderately trashy sites. They also have a 3-Tone Audio ID that I found to work great. It has a 'static' Low Tone for most ferrous-type targets, a min-range Tone ID for low-to-moderate non-ferrous Conductivity targets, and a High Tone for the higher-Conductivity targets. The three 'static' Tones [size=small](not VCO complemented)[/size] provide the operator with a search mode that has it's own individual adjustments for Gain and Discrimination, and this allows the operator to quickly shift on-the-fly from 2-Tone w/VCO to a 3-Tone mode with settings as desired.
Also an option to shift to a Threshold-based All Metal mode or a 1 or 2-Tone VCO 'Beach' mode [size=small](it can be 2-Tone if you can reduce the Discrimination a little below '40' but usually that setting is needed to help deal with wetted salts)[/size].
If you are looking for a detector in the ± $600 range, you might like the White's MX5 ($599.95) or M6 ($699.95), or the Teknetics Omega ($599), but I honestly believe you should check-ot and handle the Nokta FORS CoRe ($699) or Makro Racer ($649) as they are very serious contenders against a lot of the competition at even double their price. [size=small](MSRP's shown for comparison.)[/size]
Let folks know when you have made a decision and what it is .... and why.
Monte