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Rescued a few old coins today.....

Digger

Constitutional Patriot
Staff member
There just isn't anything better than spending the day metal detecting with my brother. :detecting: :detecting: Bill and I have been detecting together for over 35 years. As brothers, we've learned to take turns. Some times he finds more than I do . And sometimes I find more than he does.

This site was the home to some carnival activity in the mid to late 1800's. And, we've been hunting it "off and on" for nearly 20 years. Today, as you drive by, it looks like just another corn field. I had driven by it earlier in the week, to see if the corn had been picked. It hadn't, but I noticed that there was some dirt work being done at one end of the field. Even though the corn hasn't been harvested yet, I got permission to give our X-70's a little exercise, walking along the ditch line and end rows.

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Bill was using the 6-inch concentric at 7.5 Khz, and I started out with the 9-inch concentric at 3 kHz. After our first couple passes, Bill dug a Shield nickel at 8 inches. We were both impressed with the depth! However, like most nickels pulled from the ground around here, it was discolored and pretty corroded. I managed to pull a couple IH cents from the corner of the ditch line. And like his nickel, they were pretty corroded as well. But, at least we were finding coins. I wandered through one spot that was littered with nails and aluminum trash. And even though I hunt in all metal, I was having a difficult time separating the targets. I would get what I thought was a solid audio. But I just couldn't pull them out of the trash. :rage: Bill was working that area with his 6-inch concentric and was having much more success in target separation. In fact, he proved that by digging an 1885 Seated dime from the area that I had just walked over with the 3 kHz. :clapping:

Needless to say, I headed back to the truck for a coil change. I put on my 6-inch DD and headed back into the ditch line. Within minutes, I was digging old 22 catridge casings that I had missed with the 9-inch. Not necessarily targets I want to collect. But at TID or 10 and 12, I was digging them. I knew that I had already hunted that area with the 9-inch as I was retracing my own footsteps. About 30 minutes into using the 6-inch DD, I got a solid 38 on the TID. Knowing it was going to be a dime, and knowing the history of this specific site, I was confident it would be a Seated Liberty. It was an 1872. So now the "score" was Bill - 15 cents. Randy - 12 cents. If I could find a 3-cent piece, we'd be tied! :shrug: (for the record, only one of us have ever found a silver 3-cent piece. :please: And it wasn't me)

About 10 steps later, I pulled out another IH cent. :nerd: YES! Now I only needed a 2-cent piece. Don't laugh. I've found a couple of them here before. Unfortuntely, none were found today.

The day ended fairly early, compared to some of our hunts. (we were both younger then) But it didn't end until I had pulled out another SL dime (1876) and a surprisingly nice 1887 IH cent. Sorry Bill. :blowup: But today it was my turn. :poke:

Here are the coins we found.

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And here are mine after I rinsed them off.

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Thanks Bill. :cheers:

I had a great time. HH Randy
 
Nice finds there Randy. Those coins were probably corroded because of the fertilizer used on the field. I have found silver coins that looked like black slugs from fertilized fields. Should be more there. Good luck. John
 
Looks like lots of fun. And the little DD rules!:yo:

HH
BarnacleBill
 
Hi Randy,
I have arrived in our capital city on business, but have enough time to go to my minelab store for , you guessed coils for the X-Terra70.
This post of yours has made me hesitant.
My target areas I have mentioned before are old trashy but quiet grounds.
I was going to buy a 9" 3khz concentric coil and a 6" DD high frequency coil ( I will also use this in the heavily mineralised gold fields )

Do I need both or just stick to the 6".
I was also going to have a crack with the 3khz on the beach for interest.
happy hunting
gold rat
 
Always fun hunting with my brother, Randy.
What better coach could one have? I have just recently started using the X70, just my third time out with it. I can't believe I have been so stubborn about switching to the X70. What a sweet machine to use.
Can't wait until the crops are out, really got the fever going. Now all I need to do is keep up on quantity of finds. At least I didn't get skunked completely this time.
The dime was in great condition but the nickel, 1891, is pretty poor, typical for nickels here in the mid west anyway.
Had a great day, RANDY!!!!
 
Tough call as each of us have different hunting "styles" and no two sites are the same. I like the 9-inch concentric for probably 80% of the places I hunt. And for the biggest share of this particular field, it would have worked fine. However, the area that we were restricted to hunting yesterday was SATURATED with trash. I'm talking about 5 or 6 target signals with each sweep of the coil. With many (most) concentric coils, you are able to raise the coil above the ground and achieve a workable separation. However, as I have said before, the X-Terra is a different breed of cat! I don't have electromagnetic analysis equipment. But in my simple bench and field testing of the various coils, I have found the detection pattern of X-Terra coils is much broader than other makes and models. Lots of people think of concentric coils as having a detection pattern that is cone shaped. In other words, it starts out the diameter of the coil and, the deeper it hunts, the narrower the pattern becomes. Most surmise that it eventually comes to a point, where maximum depth is achieved. I don't find the X-Terra concentrics to have this pattern. From my tests, (bench and field), I find that the detection pattern is semi-spherical. Lets say you took a melon that was 9-inches in diameter, you cut it in half and placed the freshly cut flat side against the bottom of the coil. Now lower the slab of melon to a distance of about 4 or 5 inches below the coil. Now, the shape of the melon, plus the 4 or 5 inch "air gap" will resemble what I have found the shape of the detection pattern to be. It is straight down below the outside diameter of the coil for 4 or 5 inches. Then it gradually makes a curve, still getting deeper, eventually closing together at the center of the coil. Here is a crude drawing of how I picture it:

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So to answer your question, I don't know what will work best for you. I know that the 9-inch concentric will hunt deeper than the 6-inch coils. But for super-trashy places like I was in yesterday, the smaller coil prevailed. And, of the two 6-inch coils, I like the separation characteristics of the DD better than the concentric. If you have followed my posts over the past couple years, you know that I generally like concentric coils better than DD and I like lower frequencies better than the higher ones. My soil conditions don't warrant the need for DD coils and the lower frequency is better for detecting those high conductive targets I am hunting for. However, you also know that I believe this 6-inch DD coil at 18.75 kHz has been an exception to my beliefs. If you were only going to buy one during this trip to your capital city, I'd pick up the 6-inch DD. Not only for the separation characteristics. But the 18.75 kHz will be your best bet for finding jewelry during your beach hunts as lower conductive targets (gold) is better detected with higher frequency coils.

With that said, if the cost of fuel to get to your capital city exceeds the cost of the 3 kHz coil, I'd also pick one of them up while you are in the Minelab shop. You know my motto...... "you gotta have the right tool for the job". And I can't imagine not having either one of them for my X-70. JMHO HH Randy
 
Randy you always make such good common sense when you post thanks for the drawing..Interesting !!
 
and in great condition too! :thumbup:

Tom
 
Gotta love those days when the Seateds are popping! :hot:

Tom
 
Sharing our successes on this forum is just about as nice as finding the coins in the first place! Thanks to all!!! HH Randy
 
Good finds Digger. I love those Indian head coins. I found one once over here once, but in pretty poor nick, but still one of my favourite coin finds regardless.
 
on the beach for a little more coverage.
 
If I had a beach around here, I would opt for the 18.75 kHz elliptical as well. In addition to covering more sand per sweep, the solid bottom allows it to glide over the surface much easier. And, the 18.75 kHz frequency is best (among the 3) for finding those lost pieces of jewelry. HH Randy
 
Well guess what guys,
Thanks for all your input I bought both coils can't wait to use them and report back.
It's amazing how you can get new toys into the ute without the female boss spotting.:ranting:
I have the 18.75 khz eliptical for the gold fields nugget71, thanks for that tip can't wait to use it on the beach.
I am really a beach novice but over all my detectors over all of the years I most probably have found 200+ coins but never any jewelry.
I also haven't detected much in the wet sand so I may not have given myself a chance (Digger tipped me what beach conditions to look for previously in this post which was great)
Absolutely love the forum and all you (fair dinkum blokes):cheers: (aussie saying if you haven't heard it)
happy hunting
gold rat
 
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