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Received my mint condition Rutus Jupiter...

azsh07

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Shocked that it took only 3 days to get here from England. Picked it up from Staffordshire.

Sitting here doing the new detector thing...reading, fiddling,,,read some more...fiddle some more.....do some air tests etc.

I picked up a nice mini Sony HD camcorder to do some videos with. Also bough a hands free chest mount for the camcorder so I can video the detector while in use withough trying to hold the cam and swing the detector at the same time. Should work...might work....hope it works...sounds good in theory.

I did not plan on doing yet another video of the detector and it's functions as there have been a few already...unless someone wants that..or if they want to see something not covered in another video. Gary did a 12 minute video on his website which covers it pretty well.

Pretty much planned on doing a quick video of target seperation on iron verses good targets simply lying on the ground. Simply so we can see how it compares to units in its range like the G2 or Gold Bug Pro..or even the Omega. Thought I would also change the filter settings in the video also so we can see the affect changing filters has on targets that we can see how they are spaced. Nothing too long and boring but I would have liked to have seen that done on above ground targets to get an idea of what to expect when I want to change filters.

Mainly though will take it and my chest mounted cam and go hit some colonial cellar holes and also some well hunted fields. We can see how it performs on a basic level in iron laden cellar holes where targets are not that deep but targets are mostly iron and are fairly dense. Should be a good place to fiddle with filter settings on some in ground targets prior to digging.

Then I will try field hunting in a field I know well that has been well hunted to see how it compares in depth. I know this place so well I know where deep targets still live that my T2 (ex T2....had to sell it..:-() would id everything as jumpy iron. I am not looking to compare it to a T2 so much as I simply know this field well and how atleast 6 other top detectors operate in it. Verses a new field that I am not familiar with. I also have a Rev War skirmish site that has been fun to detect. I have hit it hard over 6 years but it gives up goodies everytime...although a 12 button day is long gone. It is a good example of a site with iron that is not too dense AND good targets that can run 10"+.

I will say this on the Rutus. This is a very well made and attractive machine upon initial impression. Seems well balanced and is like a Wites XLT?DFX in pole setup BUT a bit lighter in weight. The rear box is half size of a DFX rear box and only uses 6xAA.. The coil is about a perfect size for most relic hunting although deep field hunters may wish for a bit larger coil. Very similar to the Tesoro 8x9 in size shape and weight. Has a solid coil cover so no twigs poking through the coil...YEAH.

Just a nicely made machine that looks like the person who designed it was also a user.

Now....lets see how it performs....if it can hold itself against a G2 or Gold Bug Pro then it has achievd alot AND with alot more USEABLE menu functions. Right off the bat it has programmable tone to VDI. Adjustable filter setting, mixed mode audion, Adjustable SAT in allmetal, adjustable threshold and pitch in all metal, AUTO GB with GB offset, 2 user programmable settings and it when you turn it off and back on it saves your last settings.Try and find that in any sub 1000.00 dollar machine these days.
Scott
 
Sounds like a really nice machine Scott, it will be interesting to see your further

posts on the Beast, and yes Kevin at Staffs is a super fella.

H H

Les :ukflag:
 
azsh07 said:
....although not sure how you can be sure

I read somewhere that "the coil plugs into the box below the armrest now rather than the back of the screen". Since all was offered a free upgrade in light of the troubles with the old style I would imagne it being new style too but you never know. I have no experience with the Rutus but I've been following it for some time.
 
Well never knew there was new and old....what can one say. If it is just the coil connection behind the screen then I will not complain. Most machines recently do that and it can be a pain in the brush...Gold Bug Pro does that.
Scott
 
Testing this the past couple hours the easiest way to describe it is...like a Gold Bug Pro that has more adjustments and tones available. f you set the tones for each VDI quadrant you get something that sounds similar to an Explorer...but not. In a user set tone mode with multi tones set it has that sorta flutie sound....but it in it's own way.

It is a 16Khz machine so...like the Gold Bug it will hit a small cuff button harder at 8-9" than it will a silver half. If you have ever hunted with a Gold Bug Pro you know how it hits on deep big silver....or how it does not. Certainly not the machine to go out and find that deep spanish silver in a clean field that your Explorer missed.....which was expected...so no surprise there.

Now in heavy iron trash it should be very good to excellent but we will see. It definately has it's own sound and responses to it....probably not unlike getting used to an Explorer for the first time only less complicated on the tones.

Again..seems to be best described as similar to G2 or Gold Bug Pro with a wider variety of tone options as well as more adjustability. This was really what I expected so no disapointment upon an initial test.

The masking adjustment seems to have more of an affect if you have something discriminated out. Such as if you set the disc to knock out iron it seems to have a more noticeable affect on the response to good targets when a disc one is cut out. Set disc wide open and it did not seem to have such an affect on responses between targets since all respond anyway. That will take alot of play time to see for sure but it also seems like that is what the manual was saying too.

Now if we could just get that 70 degree weather back
 
The problem with the original design was that the detector was unstable some times with no reason. The cause was some changes in design made just before the detector went into production and since it's not always a problem it wasn't until several months into production the problem was realised. It's likely it was the main reason there was so many used Rutus detectors for sale in the UK in the fall. You'll just have to see if the detector acts up on you.
 
Well I will keep an eye on it. If it starts then will have to send it in. Still has the blank warranty card....but a bummer to send it back to Europe. Well..won't worry about it unless it happens and if it does...will just have to have it upgraded.
Thanks
Scott
 
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsm8udd2ZSM&feature=related[/video]
 
LOL I have bought from Kevin,and as a matter of fact I emailed him about that machine you have.....all I can say is you lucky dog!!!!
 
n/t
 
Reserving my judgements....temporarily......but its looking like the Europeans have some serious engineering going on. The Aussies are a given with Minelab:)
 
Like American manufacturers though....some models better than others.

The entire XP line are great machines. I ordered an XP Goldmaxx a few years back and it was an excellent machine. There are quite a few machines in their lineup that are great.

Some of the C-scopes are great machines in their own right...although now getting dated. The Newforce R-1 was a cool machine 10 years ago or s..but a bit long in the tooth now.

The Deep Tech I have is a very good machine....although the quality of the potentiometers is a bit behind some other machines...seem a bit cheap...but works great.

We just don't get them here through any dealer network..plus..we have machines that perform similarly so...other than morbid couriosity on most of them...not really much of a need to establish a network here in an already saturated market.

Although a bummer for people like us who like to try new machines for the fun of something different.
Scott
 
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