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REALLY Bad Day looking for Nuggets... March 2008

nero_design

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Everybody likes to hear about someone else's misfortune. Let me tell you about mine:
NSW, Australia: Yesterday's adventure into the goldfields was pretty much a complete failure and I left the region with less that I had actually entered it with. If you don't count the pain I'm in today, it had it's merits and I can say now that I've at least learned a few things more than on the last trip.

This was my 7th trip to the region. I had spent many late nights reviewing maps and marking the location of previously unknown mines and diggings.
Three trips previously had established scattered small gold in the creeks and a smallish nugget which appeared to have traveled some distance over millions of years to find itself under my coil. The cost for me to take a trip out there (including food, water and petrol) is around $100 each time so I thought that a more carefully planned trip would maximize the knowledge I had gained on the region. I'd even marked the direction of the quartz veins on the charts. I had genuinely expected to find serious gold this time. I was of course completely wrong about that.

My friend and I left the city before the sun had risen and drove several hours to the region and stopped for food and drinks before making our way off road to the forest area we were determined to explore. It was due to reach 36C degrees in the shade. En route to the trail, I drove head-on into a swarm of gigantic chrome-green beetles called Christmas Jewel Beetles which struck the car at 100kmph like lead bullets. Quite a sobering experience. We parked the car in the shade at the end of the dirt track when we found it and geared up for the quest. I over-applied the bug repellent and ingested almost as much as I wore. My lips went numb as a result and I spilled my water when I tried to rehydrate. My friend said he was fine and declined the offer of bug repellent on the fact that there was none of the summer flies about. This was a decision made which he was to later regret.
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[size=small]The valley we were exploring was pretty thick with overgrown plants, tall grass and plenty of snakes.[/size]

We headed down river and into very thick vegetation. I chose to swap coils from my Elliptical and mounted the 6" DD Coil to allow me to check the creeks and riverbeds for submerged nuggets and this meant that I was using it on dry ground as well. I think this was probably the first mistake of many for the day because the 6" DD HF coil is really quite sensitive. It reacted to every square foot of soil we covered. The ground was absolutely loaded with silver and iron ore. At first, we dug into the ground whenever we felt a target might be significant but within minutes, we just had to keep going or we'd never get to our destination - several kilometers deep into the valley where miners had reportedly found reef gold and rough alluvial deposits generations ago.

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[size=small]The creek where I found some small gold and a VERY large spiny freshwater Crayfish... he was under the rock in the center of frame.[/size]

My friend kept borrowing my pinpointer (I purchased a Vibraprobe 570 from Kellyco after reading a thread on it here on this forum) and he managed to cover it with red mud before and scratches returning it to me. I had only just pulled it out for the first time. It is a handheld Pulse-Induction (P.I.) Detector that signals with vibrations so the user doesn't have to remove their main detector headphones. Both of us were chasing elusive targets everywhere. I dug a .22 shell casing and a WHOLE bunch of hot rocks of different types. In the creek, I detected a great target at an overflow and slipped on a mossy rock, damaging the tendons in my groin which make it all but impossible to even walk today. The target was revealed with the Pinpointer (which is waterproof) and it turned out to be a rusted nail that had long corroded and had become lodged in a deep groove on the bedrock. I discovered another deep fissure on the lip of the creek which the X-Terra's 6" coil indicated was at least 12 inches long and quite narrow. My friend still had the Pinpointer and had progressed nicely on his crater so I continued to scratch around on the creek bottom to collect the odd few grains of gold. I moved a large rock and out from under it crawled the largest crayfish I have ever seen in a creek here. It was almost a foot long and covered in huge spines. I reached out to grab it and it waved a large red and blue claw at me before it slipped away with the current.

My friend called me over to examine his excavation. After an hour of digging, he had found no target. I sampled the area with the X-Terra 70 and decided it was just mineralization in the soil. I looked down and pointed to the large rock at his feet which was glittering with gold all over each side. It was pyrite but I'd never seen so much of it in one large stone before. And it was marbled all through the quartz veins in the rock. I asked him if he intended to bring the whole rock back or just a part of it and he took a closer look. He checked it with his coil and there was no response and I did the same. It was certainly pyrites but it was amazing the way it sparked in the sun with such a silvery-golden sparkle. I decided to chip off a large chunk to take back with me and set to work with my pick. The first swing showered me with sparks that were bright orange and yellow. The rock consisted of flint I suspect and was so hard that it blunted my sharp steel point in less than two blows. I put on my protective glasses to protect my eyes from shards and kept striking the stone. Sparks flew with every impact and I was amazed they could be seen in direct sunlight. Eventually I broke off a chunk and my friend insisted on bagging it because my pack was already full. As we scrambled over the boulders, I saw another that was the size of a car engine block, also covered with a fine sparkle of golden pyrites. It was quite magical to see this on such a large scale. The rocks had most likely been smashed by miners a century before.

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[size=small]The rock with quartz full of Pyrites that fooled my companion for a moment. You can see some unsuccessful pick axe strikes on the left corner area of the rock itself. [/size]

It was a long, hard slog to make it just a half kilometer downstream and it took 4 hours to get there, such was the terrain and awkward slope of the narrow canyons. Quite a ways shy of the distance we needed to cover. I stopped again to rehydrate in the 37 degree heat from the frozen 2 liter block of ice I had brought with me and found that my friend had decided against bringing drinking water with him. He assured me he had brought water with him when we left the car but it seems he was being lazy and confessed the truth only when he realized how much further I had planned to travel. He was also unable to calculate distances on a map, something I was previously unaware of.

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[size=small]My friend at the crest of the mountain valley and looking down into the creek we were following - still way below the mountains on either side of us. [/size]

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[size=small]Looking the other direction from the same seated position which I took the picture before this one. [/size]

We reached an impasse and agreed to climb the saddle of the nearest mountain to determine whether we should go on or return to the car so that we could try another area before the sun set. When we made it to the crest, we literally couldn't see the forest because of the trees. It was clear that we would probably not have enough light to return if we continued so we decided to turn back and cross the mountain to return. We came across a lot of broken quartz on the sides of the mountain and most of it showed signs of having been split and hewn by hand. I used the X-Terra 70 to scan the granite and quartz and then noticed a large excavated hole in the ground which was quite noticeable because of all the bright red soil that had been exposed. A large rock had been overturned and smaller stones had been pulled from the ground which clearly indicated another detectorist had been there before us. But had he found his target and extracted it? Placed my search coil over the red soil in the slight crater and noticed that a pick axe had been used to dig part of the hole but the X-70 sounded out loud and clear with a sharp signal. The target was still there. Why hadn't the detectorist who'd found it finished digging it out? I crouched down and began to dig out the hole further with my own pick when the red soil turned glossy black and literally thousands of inch long "Jumper Ants" (AKA: Bulldog Ants / Commando Ants / Meat Ants) just exploded out of the earth and covered my 6" coil and the end of my pick which was still in the soil. This was why the detectorist had fled. This was why the target remained undug. And since this species of ant is in fact a type of Wingless Wasp and not a typical ant, I threw myself backwards and scraped the ferocious stinging ants off my coil and my pick axe before stomping my feet and running after my friend who had likewise fled before me. These ants are called Jumper Jack Ants for a reason... they leap forward in quick jumps that can exceed 7cm per jump (see pic at the end of the thread) and are one of the few insects that will pursue humans or large animals for several meters in an effort to sting them. They are attracted to any movement and can be found roaming alone in the forest away from the nest as they are solitary foragers. Did I mention that they are over an inch long? It was a very steep cliff to my right as I caught up to my friend and I was just about to relax when I felt a spike of white-hot pain lance through my ankle on the inside of my left foot. The pain was so intense that I felt the tendons and muscles in my neck make a popping sound and I yanked up my jeans to see one of the inch-long ants clinging to my sock. I ripped it away with my hand and crushed it with my pick against the rocks. Now these ants have killed people with a single sting and so I had my friend remove a special cream for insect bites from my pack and I put it on my ankle to stem the agony. We found another spot of bright red soil and this time I just hovered the coil over the soil from a distance. There was a signal here too. I stomped my feet and for a moment there was nothing. Then a Jumper And appeared from a hole in the soil and jumped the 4 inch gap to land on my DD coil before latching on and stinging it. The ground below the coil instantly became a mass of furious and very dangerous ants as the entire colony began to disgorge itself to the surface to attack the intruder from Minelab.

I started to scuttle away but lost my footing. As I scrambled to shift the weight of my pack and prevent my demise, the loose dirt and rocks gave way under my feet and I grabbed the nearest plants to avoid falling down the ravine. Unfortunately, I grabbed the only cactus that I was to discover that day. The spines went down to the tendons in my hand and snapped off. I lost my pick over the edge during the scramble. My crevice sucker (for fine gold on the creekbeds) came loose from my pack and it too went over the edge. For some reason it didn't even register on me for another half an hour that I had lost equipment. I never lose equipment but this day was unique.

We returned to the car and the insect venom had made me somewhat incoherent and completely unable to focus on anything at hand. It's a day later and I can't walk properly, my muscles are in such pain.
Incidentally, my wife Rena used to come out with me on these sort of trips and was bitten by something in the bush which stripped the nerves in her brain and part of her spine from their protective sheaths, causing the impulses along the nerve to discharge into the surrounding tissues. This triggered partial blindness and a few weeks later, she lost all feeling down one side of her body. It cost us a fortune in CT and multiple MRI scans to try to find out what was happening. She's coming out with me again in a couple of days for the first time again since the incident. We still don't know exactly what caused it but insect venom was a likely cause. The symptoms were identical to MS.

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[size=small]Rena gets her first MRI scan with more to follow. [/size]

Having returned to the car, we could access the frozen water I brought with me (it had melted in the cooler slightly) and we drove to an area several kilometers away which I knew had once given up vast volumes of Gold. Over a million ounces ...in one particular set of creeks there... had been dug in the 1800s.

I asked my friend to guide us onto the correct offroad route via the map which he opened and then immediately passed out in. I was navigating a cliff at the time with an unconscious passenger (what the heck?) and no way to turn the car around. The sun was behind me and I couldn't safely reverse. And on the dirt road ahead, the corpse of a dead wombat lay bloated in the sun and covered in flies. I got out of the car and picked up a stick to try to move it but the animal was putrid and too heavy to move without assistance or a larger stick. The smell drove me back to the car with my shirt tied around my face to reduce my desire to throw up from the stench. I used a side mirror to navigate in reverse to a side road and turned the car around to try and find another way into the valley. On the way, I stopped and took samples of the rocks by the roadside for later inspection. I saw a pair of eagles soaring overhead on the currents in the air and took the time to try to photograph them. I had no idea we had Eagles in this part of Australia until yesterday. When I got to the bottom of the valley I was seeking, the sun was setting behind the hills and the sky was starting to lose light.

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[size=small]My friend passed out in the car (altitude sickness? LOL!) whilst I sampled the soil. [/size]

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[size=small]One of the Eagles overhead. [/size]

I found the creek I was after (having marked it on my maps several weeks ago) and stopped the car beside it and grabbed my panning dish & shovel. One shovel of gravel showed flecks of rounded gold granules. A second shovel full showed half a dozen more. The third panload (I was using the new oddly shaped Blue pan from the US) actually had a small nugget in it. And the last panload I washed had small chunks of gold in it that I could see whilst standing 6 feet away from where I was flinging it with my shovel. This was a good spot. The piles of gravel on the side of the bank beside me were all the same size so I knew someone else had been here with a sluice recently. By now the sky was dark and the moonlight wasn't quite bright enough to allow us to pan further. My friend had also found gold but was too lazy to dig down past the surface gravel so he found less than I did. He cursed me when I found the little nugget. His decision to avoid the bug spray earlier resulted in him drawing every mosquito for miles and they formed a small crowd around him. We returned to the car just a half dozen feet away on the track ... avoided the rabbits and Kangaroos... and returned to the nearest town for a burger and cold beverages before commencing the long drive home.

Today I'm buying a recovery bucket to better process the wash and gravel. I need to repair my crevice-pump and collect some supplies and then my wife and I are returning to the same spot to see if we can determine just how much gold is there. The largest officially recorded nugget from that creek was 167 ounces. I have a good feeling there's a few smaller ones lying around there still. Will report back in shortly after I run the X-Terra about the region.


Some things I learned Yesterday:

* The Elliptical Coil is better for scanning larger areas than the 6". That smaller DD HF coil is really better suited to more refined scanning or underwater uses.

* The Blue pan which I had earlier complained about due to it's brightness in sunlight was AMAZING to use after the sun had dipped behind the mountains. In the low light, the pan was ideal. The gold particles and micro-nuggets literally shone as if they were glowing in the pan.

* The VibraProbe 570 is really quite a cool little gadget. You don't need it but it makes your day a little easier by speeding up the process of finding targets in soil. Helps avoid damaging nuggets apparently.

* Jumper Ants are the direct spawn of the devil himself.


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[size=small]The rock specimen with Pyrites (Fool's Gold) which I chipped off and brought back. Take a closer look to see why it can fool anyone without experience... or a metal detector. [/size]

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[size=small]The Jumper Ant is a little over an inch long. I've seen these ants on the branches of trees and watched them jump/drop 4 feet to the ground and then follow me wherever I went in an effort to sting me. They remind me of The Terminator. I suspect early Miners and Gold Prospectors would have sought out these nests with kettles of boiling water. [/size]
 
Nice post! Sorry to hear about your wife's condition. Detecting partners are harder to find than women. I just received my Vibraprobe 570, have two 560's but the 570 does get a good 1.5" in depth or better, I like it. Thanks for the post and HH, Mike
 
Sorry to hear about your misses mate, heres hoping it is/was only a temporary reaction. Mate watch out for those insect repellants, the chemical ones. The active ingredient (probably not going to spell it right but you will see it on the label) dialuthlamide, pretty sure Ive got that about 80% wrong in spelling, is highly carcinogenic and is actually one of the most dangerous. The labels often read "do not spray near fishtanks, pets, food, children etc etc" one reason is it "will" kill your fish through poisoning. This chemical is responsible for huge amounts of cancer and allergic reactions.
I stopped using it ten years ago. I use one made out of natural ingredients by , I think, tea tree plantaion. You can get it in a health shop. Only get the one from Tea Tree as the others are useless and if anything attract flies. Your lips went numb for a reason , and that reason is not a good one.
 
Wow, What a bad day ! (except for the gold at the end) You guys on the other side of the pond really have some ugly creatures to contend with. In Arizona we have rattle snakes, scorpians and bee's to contend with and some pesky biteing bugs, but not much else. I do think I would trade spots with you for the chance to find more and bigger nuggets. Let us know how the next trip to the gold you found goes. Be sure to bring a bunch of buckets to fill so you can process them at home.

Good hunting, John K
 
With days like that, it sure would test your mettle. Finding out more about the poisons of the ant bites may help prevent similar complications that Rena may have suffered from. Sorry to hear the challenges that she faces. Good luck with it to both of you.
Next time I have a bad day, I'll remember the adventures that you experience! After all, isn't this a gentle and relaxing hobby?:stretcher::poke:
you might want to change you user name to Indiana Jones!:lol:
Mick Evans.
P.S. Those jumper ants look very much like bull ants. Same shape and size. The bull ants have a nasty bite as well, but certainly nothing like the jumper ants. Your posts are the first time that I've come across them. In Hobart, there is a deadly ant as well that kills. I think that it is 35 people a year. It may actually be the same species of ant come to think of it.
 
That's what I call perserverance Marco.Hope you and the better half soon recover,keep up the good work,Cheers Dargo.
 
WOW What an Adventure.

You should stop searching for Gold and start writing books.

Very well written and you had me sitting on the edge of my chair..

I hope Rena is feeling better now.

Good luck when you finally get back there.
I am wondering if the Ants will still be there in Winter when the ground is a bit damp.

Take Care and Stay Safe

Ashley...
 
Thanks for your kind thoughts for my wife.
She's coming out with me tomorrow to test out one of the Mini-Gold-Recovery units and this will be her first trip back to the goldfields since her reaction. Her eyesight has improved greatly and we think the nerves are repairing.

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[size=small]The inner two elements of the Rotapan.[/size]

That ant that stung me was confirmed as a "Jack Jumper" ant. The venom is deadly in instances where people show an allergy. Furthermore, they apparently kill a few people each year here. Here's a pic of a variation species stinging a photographer (not me!). The sting can be half a centimeter long in the larger version (the ants come in two sizes and a few color varieties of red, yellow and black)

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[size=small]An evil 'Jack Jumper Ant' stings a photographer.[/size]

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[size=small]Told you they were huge![/size]

Now where I'm panning tomorrow, I saw one of these Jack Jumper Ants there last December so I know there's a nest nearby. The prospectors I spoke to today said that arsenic was used to wipe them out when miners found them. Forestry workers logging the State Forests here regularly face these angry ants and some have been killed with single stings. I'm bringing a very large laser with me tomorrow to see just how tough these little monsters are against modern science.

I purchased a chisel with a forged carbon steel wedge today to allow me to split a few rocks that caught my eye before when I saw them sitting in the stream the other day. They had some great fissures in them too. Not sure of the best way to capture any gold as it falls out since the rocks are entirely too large for me to be able to move them out of the flowing water. My friend has just realized I'm headed out without him with the Rotapan and he's clearly annoyed since he's been called into a meeting at his work. He asked me to "leave some gold behind" for him! ....sure. LOL!

Well, our drinking water is being frozen as I write and I need to charge the camera batteries before I head out. Will be bringing the X-Terra 70 with me to scan the new area around the creek for 'small gold' or larger. Hopefully there's no leeches in this creek.

Cheers, Marco
 
A cup of Kerosene and a match, Pour the kero in and give it a minute to soak in, and then light it. I've seen it fix other ant species, no reason it wont do the same with these. Then again with your luck you probably would set fire to half of Australia, then again that might get rid of most of the nasties, and you would be safe when you went detecting:stretcher: HH. Bob Better luck with your next trip
 
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[size=small]Rena sits back with a cold drink in the late afternoon to watch me work the Prospecting tools.[/size]

I went back out today as I said I would.

The day was perfect in every respect. We arrived early and had a full day to explore the creek system and to detect. My wife Rena came with me and we brought with us a few little luxuries to make the day a more comfortable one. As I write this, i can't sit up straight as the ant venom caused all my lymph glands to swell up and I seem to have a lot more bruises and sunburn than when I left my home this morning. I brought with me a 'Rotapan' (AKA: Mini-Gold-Recovery-Machine) which is a sort of plastic bucket with several galvanized steel fittings inside it which effectively separate the heavy particles from the light ones. You can supposedly pan a metric ton of soil in half a day with this thing and the capture rate for gold is an amazing 98+ percent! It was designed by a chap who lives close to my home too so it's nice to see Aussies are still creating cool things for the rest of us to use in our daily lives.

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[size=small]Me working the Rotapan It hurts without gloves after a while but it works.[/size]

Well, the Rotapan works but it took the skin off my knuckles every now and then as I spun the separator element and then my repaired-on-the-fly 'crevice sucker' cut my hands and eventually removed the skin as my palms and fingers softened form the immersion on water all day. But did I find much gold with either? No. Not enough to even make me think it was a worthwhile trip. Not even half a gram. I simultaneously used the new US designed Blue Gold Pan to check the areas I was sampling with the 'crevice-sucker' and the lack of Gold in the soil I was testing was enough to be clearly seen in the pan ...but insufficient for be of any use to me. Just a few large flakes here and there. There wasn't even a method to finding the gold. The Bedrock had been scraped bare by another Prospector who had evidently moved along the creek a few days ago and deposited his wash-gravel waste left and right on the creek shore. I found a magnificent zone where the bedrock had formed natural riffles and scoured each crevice carefully without any luck. Piles of mysterious wash-gravel could be seen on either side of the creek there too. I was determined to get results from the Rotapan and continued to sample the creek bed at intervals. Again, no luck other than the odd bright flake of gold.

By the time I'd reminded myself that I needed to test the X-Terra 70 here with the HF DD 6" coil, the sun had set and the mosquitoes were out.
I packed the gear in the car and turned off the large laser . I had been using to share my misfortune with my old friends at a nearby Jack Jumper Ant colony. As far as I'm concerned, we're even now.

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[size=small]I saw to it that the Jack Jumper Ants had a bad day too.[/size]
 
[quote B.T]Hey Nero, how about a King brown snake demo:rofl:[/quote]

I've been looking for one as I need to photograph it for a book. I'll let you know if I find any.
 
Your sick BT, sick, i got a good laugh out of that.:rofl: God, I'll bet the emergency ward is getting the bed ready right now. aarhahahahah
 
Nero,
Terrible to hear about your wife, you expect that swimming with the jelly fish up here not in the bush, I hope she is OK. Greg
 
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