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Racer2 finds bucket lister :thumbup:

Cal_Cobra

Active member
Did some detecting this morning with my Racer2. Any time I'm able to get out anymore is great, and this hunt was (so I thought) shaping up to be an average hunt. I found six wheaties (1913S, 1923S, 1939S, 1941S, 1942S, and a no date), two Indian heads (1881 & 1905), a buffalo (1937), a toasted ?nickel?, a nice San Francisco dog tag, albeit some 54 years newer then the one I found a couple of weeks ago, a couple of pieces of .925 silver jewelry, two 1800's San Francisco Cable Car buttons (one from the Sutter Street Railroad with a train on it, the other from the Omnibus Cable Company, also with a train on it. Both would later merge into the San Francisco Cable Car system).

I also found three silver coins, two mercs and one Washington quarter. I generally don't look at the dates on my coins until I get home, so this morning after I got back from detecting I was checking out my finds, and the one merc was in beautiful condition, but it's a common date 1942S, the silver Washington is a 1936 with a big rust blotch on the back.

Then I looked at the last coin, a worn mercury dime, and I wasn't expecting much. I checked the date, 1916, OK, OK, I've found several 1916 mercs over the years and they've all been San Francisco or no mint marks. I muttered "come on, be a Denver mint mark" as I turned it over to check, and much to my amazement, IT'S A 1916D Mercury Dime!! :drool:

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I still cannot believe I finally bagged a 16D merc I wish it was in as good of condition as the 1942S merc, but we take what we can get :beers:

Thanks for taking a look,
Brian

PS - A little history on the cable car buttons I found :)

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THE OMNIBUS RAILROAD & CABLE COMPANY – 1889

The Omnibus Company was one of the earliest transportation systems in San Francisco, dating to 1861. Gustav Sutro owned the firm and in 1889 replaced the firm’s horsecar lines with cable operations. The company was the second largest cable system in the City, with 11.3 miles of rail, but was not successful. Electric Trolleys were improving rapidly and only eleven years after the line opened, all routes were eliminated or converted to electric streetcars.

The Omnibus Cable lines followed the pattern of the Market Street Cable routes, on less traveled streets however. Meager revenues forced the company to abandon the Howard Street line, from 10th Street to 26th Street, in 1893, after only four years in operation. Market Street Railway took over the failing company in October 1893 and promptly converted the cable lines to electric streetcars or closed them. The powerhouse at Oak and Broderick Streets in the Western Addition converted to electricity in 1895, along with the Oak and Ellis cable lines. The remnant of the Howard Street line, from the Ferry Building to the powerhouse at 10th Street stopped operating in 1899, as did the Post Street line.

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HE SUTTER STREET RAILROAD – 1877

Henry Casebolt, another pioneer of urban transportation, operated horsecar lines in the City throughout the 1860s. In1876 Casebolt turned to cable cars to replace unprofitable horsecar lines.

Much of the Sutter Street Railroad was similar to the Clay Street system, with little innovation in the way of materials used or design. The one significant difference however, and Casebolt’s main contribution to cable railways, was a grip that grabbed the cable from the side, instead of below, while gripmen employed a lever to set the car in motion, rather than the hollow screw device patented by Hallidie for his Clay Street Railroad.

The Sutter Street Railroad, unlike the Clay Street line, ran over fairly level ground, and its steepest point had only a 4% grade. Converting the old horsecar line to cable was completed in 1876 and the line officially opened on January 27, 1877. Its cable cars ran on Sutter from Market Street west to Larkin Street. The cable line proved a tremendous success over its previous horsecar system, increasing its ridership by 962,000 in the first year of operation. In late 1878, the company opened a new crosstown line, which ran from the powerhouse, situated at Larkin and Bush Streets, south on Larkin to Hayes Street. The firm also extended the main line on Sutter Street further westward to Central [Presidio] Avenue in the Western Addition, which at that time was sparsely populated.

Casebolt sold out his company to a local real estate broker, Robert F. Morrow, in 1883. Morrow promptly began another extension of the line, on Larkin south across Market and down 9th Street to Mission. Morrow also abandoned the 1879 powerhouse at Sutter and Presidio Streets, in favor of consolidating all lines into a single powerhouse at Sutter and Polk.

The Sutter Street Railroad became the Sutter Street Railway in 1887, and the same year the company further extended the Larkin Street line south to Brannan. In 1888, the crosstown line pushed further from Polk Street to Pacific Avenue and west on Pacific to Fillmore Street. An overhaul of its whole system in 1890-91 saw an extension of the Pacific Avenue line west from Fillmore to Divisadero, giving the company a total of six miles of track, along with a mile of horsecar track that connected the Sutter Street line at Market with the Ferry Building.

The Sutter Street Railway operated until 1902, when it merged with United Railways of San Francisco, along with two electric streetcar companies and the Market Street Railway. Industrialists from the East Coast controlled this new conglomeration of transport in San Francisco until the Great Earthquake and Fire of 1906, when most of its cars, cables, and powerhouse were destroyed.
 
Wow, congrats on the '16D merc Brian---GREAT FIND!------I only ever found one--it came out of an old fairgrounds at about 5" deep.----Ya just never know!--------Del
 
A rare find, congrats, but I have to say I really like the tokens and history that goes with them. Tokens really give a peak into the past.

Nice going Brian,

Randy
 
Great finds Brian. Still looking for my first 1916 D!
 
Wow !! more great finds. The R2 is really tearing it up. Congrats on the 16D.
 
That is a hunt to remember ----really great coins and a 16D -------------Gh------------after1----------------
 
Awesome finds man that is a good Day Cal Cobra :thumbup:
 
Thanks everyone, it'll be a find I won't soon forget :thumbup:

coindawg said:
Great finds, looks like you're tearing it up with the Black Racer.

I'm pretty impressed with the Racer2, and I think it still has a few things it can to learn. I might be able to get out this afternoon, and I'm going to try to test out some different settings to see if that will help.

HH,
Brian
 
Huge congrats! Great info on the cable car buttons too. I remember hoarding silver coins in the mid 60's and never found a '16 D winged Liberty head. So, so cool!
 
Congrats on the 16-D Merc! I've had a few of the 1916 Merc's only to turn them over and find nothing or an -S. Still waiting.

I enjoyed the additional info on the cable cars. Thanks for including it. Glad I popped over here to the Makro forum to see what's going on.


Rich (Utah)
 
Rich (Utah) said:
Congrats on the 16-D Merc! I've had a few of the 1916 Merc's only to turn them over and find nothing or an -S. Still waiting.

I enjoyed the additional info on the cable cars. Thanks for including it. Glad I popped over here to the Makro forum to see what's going on.


Rich (Utah)

It made me smile to see this topped off again, thanks! :detecting:

Even though I didn't get out that much (darn job :rant: ) 2016 turned out to be a darn good year of detecting :thumbup:

The R2 has turned out to be a great machine for me, I'm looking forward to seeing what the Nokta/Makro team have in store for 2017 (come on Impact).

HH,
Brian
 
Cal_Cobra said:
... Even though I didn't get out that much (darn job :rant: ) 2016 turned out to be a darn good year of detecting :thumbup:

Brian
Brian,

I'm also sorry you couldn't get out more, and especially make one of the two Welcome-to-Hunt Outings like you did in Sept. 2015. I sure hope you can make a WTHO in 2017, and as of now we are trying to plan three o0f them, with the first on in late April. I am also working with a fellow who might have some access information about the F. H. site you brought up 9n Nevada, We'll see how that goes.

It does look like you had a very good year anyway, and you're very correct that the Racer 2 is a great detector. :thumbup:

Monte
 
Cal_Cobra said:
The R2 has turned out to be a great machine for me, I'm looking forward to seeing what the Nokta/Makro team have in store for 2017 (come on Impact).

HH,
Brian

Hey Brian,

I had a hankerin early this year to try a few different detecting things that I've done in years past and picked up a few detectors and sold a few including my trusty old e-trac. I thoroughly enjoyed the relic hunting out in Nevada with the WTHO and am looking at getting a dedicated relic unit for the ghost towns and such. I've been watching the Makro / Nokta's carefully and am impressed with the results I am seeing. I am looking closely at the R2 and Relic as well as keeping an eye out for the Impact. Never thought that I'd like listening to the iron tones, but it really is helpful when hunting in all that iron.

Here's to a New Year and much success.

Rich -
 
And by 'serious use' I am especially referring to the ability to handle densely iron littered sites.

Rich (Utah) said:
I thoroughly enjoyed the relic hunting out in Nevada with the WTHO and am looking at getting a dedicated relic unit for the ghost towns and such. I've been watching the Makro / Nokta's carefully and am impressed with the results I am seeing. I am looking closely at the R2 and Relic ...
Glad you made our Welcome-to-Hunt Outing, and we're hoping to hold three of them in 2017. The first will be in April at Gold Mining Ghost Towns, so be prepared and I hope it fits your schedule.

Naturally, even though it will mean tougher competition for some of us, I also hope you're equipped with a Makro or Nokta model to handle the challenges. :thumbup: Don't forget to consider the Nokta FORS CoRe, which is also a very capable 'all-purpose' detectors and also serves me well if ferrous debris is a sparse to modest amount, and since I like to listen to most iron, it works fine. But the Relic and Racer 2 do provide me the comfort of hearing most iron with [size=small]a Lower Iron Volume Level[/size] and a few other useful functions. All three make great general-purpose detectors for Coin Hunting or Relic Hunting tasks.


Rich (Utah) said:
... as well as keeping an eye out for the Impact.
Knowing the quality build construction they use, and the excellent engineering that brought us the CoRe, Relic, Racer 2, Gold Racer and others, and the fact that they do not rush a model to general production until they, and a selected evaluation group, have tested their detectors first, I can't help but feel confident the pending Nokta Impact ought to also be a premiere detector when it enters the market.


Rich (Utah) said:
Never thought that I'd like listening to the iron tones, but it really is helpful when hunting in all that iron.
Hearing more metal targets, and combining a proper-size search coil and using a slow and methodical sweep of an area, has proven very productive for me for a long time, and is especially true with all the Makro / Nokta models in my arsenal. Naturally, with any detector matched to a challenging site, patience is one ingredient folks can't purchase and must muster that talent or skill all on their own.

Monte

[size=small]PS: Have you found out any more information or potential value for the excellent artifact find on September's 4[sup]th[/sup] WTHO?[/size]
 
Congrats on the 16d plus the other goodies!
 
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