Racer 2 vs Fors Relic

[jadeblackhawk]

I really wanted a Fors Relic, but it doesn't look like any of the dealers that sell it are willing to respond to my emails/social media posts. I can drive a little ways to a local dealer and buy a Racer 2, but it will be about $200 more not including the gas to get there. These machines are new, so I haven't really been able to find any comparisons on the net. I plan on hunting mostly parks, maybe a farm field or two every now and again (and my iron and foil riddled back yard that makes my Ace 250 go crazy). I haven't done much land hunting in the past five years, so I haven't run a land machine newer than the Ace 250 that I bought way back in 2006 (!) The Racer is more expensive, comes with one coil instead of two, and I think only has 5 modes instead of six, and that is one of the things I was taking into consideration. But I'm not sure there is any real differences in the machine itself? The soil isn't typically very mineralized here in the lower part of Michigan, I have a separate machine for freshwater already, and I have no plans on going to the ocean anytime soon. A lot of the parks around here have been heavily detected, so I tend to go to the trashy areas everyone else avoids, and I dig anything not obviously big iron (which with an Ace 250 means I've dug a lot of it cause it thinks big metal mean quarters). I also hunt when I go to my mom's. The people who lived on her property before her obviously thought planting nails grew nail trees. I pulled about twenty nails out of one hole the one time I detected her back yard with the 250, her whole yard is like that I promised I'd try again when I got a new detector, her house is from the late 1800s, and as far as we know hasn't been hunted, but I need either a good detector or a way to suck all the nails out of the ground before starting.

So I guess my main question is, has anyone around here run both the Racer 2 and the Fors Relic? Is there any reason, (other than managing to get a dealer to answer my shipping questions), that I should go with a Racer 2 instead of a Relic?

 

[Keith Southern]

Do you relic hunt or Coin and Relic hunt or just coin hunt??


Keith

 

[Stoof-tabsallday]

I'm in Michigan as well and just posted a similar question but opposite lol.
I have the relic and was asking if the racer2 would just be redundant.
I love the relic. Sometimes it's too deep if that's possible haha. I haven't relic hunted yet with it, but also never swung a racer. So I'll sit back and see what's said here as well as in my thread .

 

[Stoof-tabsallday]

P.s. if your near the metro area, I'd love to hunt your mom property with ya after you figure out which detector you want!! Lol
Never detected with anyone else.

Also, make the actual phone call to kellyco. You'll be able to speak with a sales rep. Trust me they want you to buy it.

 

[jadeblackhawk]

My mom lives down south, not here in Michigan I saw your post after i posted mine

 

[Stoof-tabsallday]

Dang lol. Sounds fun to hunt somewhere old.
Technically two different questions so it's all good.

 

[jadeblackhawk]

I relic hunt. I don't discriminate out coins, but in the park, if it's above iron I dig. If I'm out in a field or forest, I dig iron too.

 

[jadeblackhawk]

Was looking around ebay and found a new racer 2 for cheaper than the local dealer sells it, so I pulled the trigger. I guess I can always sell it if I don't like it

 

[Stoof-tabsallday]

I'm sure you'll love it. Did you make sure some of the warranty was left?
As far as specs it's the same on paper as the relic and everyone has good things to say about both.
I'm sure you'll love it!!

 

[jadeblackhawk]

Yeah, it's brand new, full two year warranty. I'll register it when it comes in. I'm sure I'll like it, I've been watching every youtube and reading every review I can find on those two, I don't expect any (bad) surprises. I can always find a Fors Relic later, maybe after they've been out a while. I'm sure some will show up used either on ebay or in a forum. Maybe if I get two I can eventually talk my husband into joining me. He humors me, but has zero interest in any kind of "treasure" hunt lol.

 

[Stoof-tabsallday]

Yeah, it's brand new, full two year warranty. I'll register it when it comes in. I'm sure I'll like it, I've been watching every youtube and reading every review I can find on those two, I don't expect any (bad) surprises. I can always find a Fors Relic later, maybe after they've been out a while. I'm sure some will show up used either on ebay or in a forum. Maybe if I get two I can eventually talk my husband into joining me. He humors me, but has zero interest in any kind of "treasure" hunt lol.

Yeah, my ex and my brother both look (ed) at me kinda weird.
Who cares, I love it. All of it, even the trash... but it does get annoying.
The reason I was looking at the racer2 not for different abilities (don't think there are any) but because it's set up a bit different with the screen in front.
But if anyone can chime in that there's a difference.... lol.
With a bit of practice I think it will become your favorite detector.

 

[Low-Boy/LCPM]

A racer two is going to have a good warranty it was just released this year

 

[andromedae71]

I owned the Relic but sold it because the Target ID was all over the place in my mineralized soil. Too many false high tones that end up being junk even at low sensitivity.
(About 2-3x more false signals than my F19 but much deeper than the F19. I cross checked the Relic's false signals on the F19. These items were sharp or flat iron & tin in the first 6 inches. Sometimes the F19 would false on the same item but more of a broken undiggable signal. On these items for the Relic, in the ground it was a high tone, out of the ground it was an iron grunt.)
Other than the falsing, it was a very hot machine and deep using the little 5" coil. If the target ID was stable for me, I would have kept it as the perfect machine.
I have read people in Michigan are doing well with the Relic because mineralization is low. Target ID should be stable there.

I would love to see somebody compare the Relic vs Racer 2 in mineralized soil for target ID stability.
I have considered buying the Racer 2 to see if it's different. I have the Gold Racer and it will also falses on iron in the ground here so I suspect it will be the same.

-Don

 

[hairymonsterman]

I have mid to high mineralised soil, usually 3-4 bars on the Racer2 and it kills it's depth. Many of the youtube videos you see of the R2 where they get massive depths (some testers getting 14 inch on small copper coins) are in 0-1bar soil, basically air testing depths, but they don't tell you that in the videos lol
Typically i get 8 or 9 inch on a large uk victorian copper penny with a signal you would dig, TID at this level is usually all over the place so you need to use your ears. The nel tornado is a bit better than stock in my soil.
It does sound off high tone on off the edge of iron and at first it can be difficult to tell when is a false high or a genuine target.

 

[Stoof-tabsallday]

I have mid to high mineralised soil, usually 3-4 bars on the Racer2 and it kills it's depth. Many of the youtube videos you see of the R2 where they get massive depths (some testers getting 14 inch on small copper coins) are in 0-1bar soil, basically air testing depths, but they don't tell you that in the videos lol
Typically i get 8 or 9 inch on a large uk victorian copper penny with a signal you would dig, TID at this level is usually all over the place so you need to use your ears. The nel tornado is a bit better than stock in my soil.
It does sound off high tone on off the edge of iron and at first it can be difficult to tell when is a false high or a genuine target.

They sell Nel and cors coils for the R2 already?
Or did you just find one that matches the freq?

 

[hairymonsterman]

Ordered the coil direct from Nel, not used the stock coil since, good separation, better tid, picks up very small items and hits louder than stock at fringe depths, can't fault it.

 

[jadeblackhawk]

Thanks for the info guys I