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Racer 1 vs Racer 2 VIDEO ! !

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staffydog33

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRkGpJ8zBEg
 
After watching that i'm laughing and thinking "PHEW!" coz originally I was gutted having only just bought the red racer and had the new coil fitted, then a better, or supposedly better version, the Racer 2 comes out.

I was FUMING....but 100% chuffed i've kept y racer and 1 zillion % no way hoZAY am I selling my Racer 1/Red racer to get the Racer 2.

Nope. nOpE...NO...lol

Matt
 
The Racer 2 was not designed to make the Red Racer obsolete. The Racer 2 just makes a great detector even better by adding a features that some folks would like to have. I'll be selling one of my Racers to add a Racer 2 to my collection.
 
I am the same , i would not sell the red racer to buy a racer 2. I would save for a racer 2 and buy it in 6 months time. The Red Racer is Unique in it's own way. The Racer 2 will be also be unique in it's own way.
The Racer Red once mastered in my opinion will find anything that any top of the range machine made by anyone else will find. Who wants to Pay 2k + for a detector. Not me..
 
I wonder how many different racers we will have within the next 3 years, I am hoping for a RACER 3 by next year..:)
The more the better..:thumbup:
 
With the red, gold and r2 that makes three. Next would be the uwR and another screenless beep and dig, the Zatoichi.
 
think the R2 was to fix the 82 lumping of targets expanding out the target ID, on the R1 the 82 lump that was a deal braker for me in a modern ID machine, test didn't show how it was ID ing the targets at depth.

if its not ID ing the target but hearing it mmmmm maybe that's ok if digging it all, I need to see more tests myself or wait for more tones on an Impact if there is no number ID on those deep targets.

so this all boils down to what we want a detector for yes??

I grabbed a GR to hit gold and it isn't deep and that's to be expected and id doesn't mean much when digging it all but the other racers made for coins I can see an advantage in its speed picking coins out of high trash, still out for me on depth and ID ing a coin at depth, might give one a try see what happens.

sure its strength is its speed for getting those shallower coins out of high trash, and low target areas digging at depth. there is a range a VLF can go anyway you can see from my post still torn on the 2 coin racers, some pluses and minuses for me.

might grab one might not time will tell as the say.

AJ
 
The Deep mode on Racer 2 is a pathetic. I will stay with the Racer 1 and i will get the bliss V5 now with that said i love the Red Racer King of separation with good average depth. and great company support
 
The racer 1 is a stripped down version of the 2 and I don't need notch or iron audio or a break point. I'm thinking the impact is going to be the game changer and go against the deus so what ever racer you have your in good shape and will want to keep it.
 
amberjack said:
think the R2 was to fix the 82 lumping of targets expanding out the target ID, on the R1 the 82 lump that was a deal braker for me in a modern ID machine, test didn't show how it was ID ing the targets at depth.

if its not ID ing the target but hearing it mmmmm maybe that's ok if digging it all, I need to see more tests myself or wait for more tones on an Impact if there is no number ID on those deep targets.

so this all boils down to what we want a detector for yes??

I grabbed a GR to hit gold and it isn't deep and that's to be expected and id doesn't mean much when digging it all but the other racers made for coins I can see an advantage in its speed picking coins out of high trash, still out for me on depth and ID ing a coin at depth, might give one a try see what happens.

sure its strength is its speed for getting those shallower coins out of high trash, and low target areas digging at depth. there is a range a VLF can go anyway you can see from my post still torn on the 2 coin racers, some pluses and minuses for me.

might grab one might not time will tell as the say.

AJ
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What do ou mean by the "82" bit?

I've seen the "82" thing mentioned a few times, but am unsure of exactly what people mean.

any help - much appreciated.

Matt
 
thats what I did... I just wish the 2 would get here. i am a little impatient...lol


Tom Slick said:
The Racer 2 was not designed to make the Red Racer obsolete. The Racer 2 just makes a great detector even better by adding a features that some folks would like to have. I'll be selling one of my Racers to add a Racer 2 to my collection.
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What do ou mean by the "82" bit?

I've seen the "82" thing mentioned a few times, but am unsure of exactly what people mean.

any help - much appreciated.

Matt
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The Red Racer is known for lumping all good targets into the VDI 82. Most everything with a good signal reads an 82 on the VDI. The R2 is said to have fixed this issue and reads a more accurate target ID.
 
"Staffydog33" (Matt)

Thanks a bunch for putting up that link to the RRed/Rac2 video.

It's a fair enough comparison (perhaps a bit dragged out with lots of jumpin' and stompin' the ground) and the guy has been doing these types of tests both inland and coast for a while

What's meant "I think?" [ by lumping ] of the Target ID's on the 'Red Racer is: an above average cross of US silver coins may produce Target ID's of [ 82 ] despite being different coins?
(The Minelab's were criticised for this also as an Explorer XS might produce 28, 30 or 32 for a wide variety of coins including both copper and zinc and silver?)

I just 'air-tested' a few US coins with the "Racer 2 and it's New 11" coil and they produced the following Target ID's

* Kennedy Half Dollar 1776-1976 = 95
* Suzan B Anthony Dollar 1979 = 87
* 25c 1961 = 90/91
* Mercury Dime 1944 = 81
* Wheat Penny 1920 = 73/74

For our hunting (UK & EU) where we also encounter the same "lumping" on silver's I got the following Target ID's for the "Racer 2"

* George V 2/6 Half Crown 1923 = 94
* Gothic Florin = 91
* George V Florin 1914 = 94
* Bull Head Shilling 1820 = 82
* Young head Victoria shilling 1838 = 84
* Young head Victoria shilling 1878 = 83
* Victoria Full Portrait shilling 1890 = 84
* Typical bent 'Love Token' Charles? = 66
* Small hammered silver penny possibly Elizabeth? = 37

NB: the disparity between the 2 silver shillings of Young Head Victoria might be due to silver content and/or wear and tear as one of the coins is VF compared to EF

I hope this helps?

Des D
 
On the R1 typically it's zinc pennies and screw caps that read 82 silver read 85 to 90+. A copper penny reads 84 or so dimes 84,85 quarter 88,89. I don't believe the lumping is as bad as some claim.
 
Interesting video, thanks! Switching to the deep mode didn't seem to help that much, at least in that test, with those conditions, coin, settings etc.


Wonder how deep various targets can be before the target number ID system starts becoming iffy or not showing numbers any more... Anybody with a red racer that can share their experiences on that one?
 
I can't wait to try the DEEP mode in dry sand with the big coil.
 
I was impressed with the test and the results. Probably shouldn't have watched it. Anyway, I would have liked to see what sensitivity setting he was using. The default I would think. I wonder if cranking it up some would have helped it hit the 13" target better? Are you able to crank it up in deep mode?
 
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