I hate it when I get a different detector and it wont stop raining...Been house bound playing with the programs and had a question. I see that the QXT has a mixed mode and wondered if anyone has tried hunting this way. I know that Monte was high on this way of hunting with the XLT but find no mention of anyone using it with the QXT.
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QXT mixed mode?
- Thread starter donl98632
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GoGoGopher
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I have used it, but still do not know the full reasons for using it, or when you really want to use it...
Help in this area WOULD be appreciated.
HH,
Help in this area WOULD be appreciated.
HH,
The article that monte posted on using mixed mode on the XLT said it was deeper than disc mode, but not quite as deep as all metal. Said the items not disc out would sound off as coins, items disc out would sound off in the vco tone. I will have to give it a try when the weather clears. Don.
provantage
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i have been fine tuning my QXT for years and never used this program. i dont use it, when i tried it it really didnt give me the solid hits i like to hear when using this machine. I will just give you my feelings about this unit. I hunt with a guy that has and mxt and can out hunt him even with him having that plus id. i feel it comes down to basically having a good setting for the ground your working and listening to your unit. this is the settings i use and I have killed it: audio disc off/ disc on /noise reduction off/ VCO on/ sensitivity 16-18 but start at 16 18 is good in open trash free areas and pinpoint sens keep at 16. the only time i drop the last two settings down is when im on rocky area alla movie drive ins wires are a b"tch. I know pennies are a pain but they need to be pulled thats why i have stopped discriminating them and accept all zones it does give you better depth just keep an alert for zone 7 coins and anything else your looking for it will give you a high pitch noise. the reason i accept all is because i have hit mercs that come in that screwcap zone as well as zone 8 when they were really deep. the more zones accepted the deeper you will get because the machine does not have to disc as much. A perfect example is what i did sunday i have run this one spot so many times i had no hits coming up i ran it wide open on zones and had a little blip come up almost one you would ignore but i kept swinging 7"s i found out if you run over a signal like this you sometimes loose it and should move away from the target and then swing again it seems to pull the target again. i dug 8 inches and hit a 38 merc. volume levels i think are key the higher the better i dont use headphones and when i was running at 2 or 3 i would overlook targets i think if you can run at 7 or 8 without making anyone angry you should be good.I hope this info helps if anyone needs more help i feel confident i can help there is a lot of time needed to master this machine but when acomplished it is something special. Also keep your eyes on the readings this is when you will miss those deep targets try walking on angles instead of straight lines ground balance every 20-30 minutes and i have found once you hit 10.1 battery level take some of that change you found and replace all 8 batteries all at once.enegizer or panasonic are the best dont waste your money on anything less.
GoGoGopher
New member
Thanks for the info...
HH,
HH,
Xlt mixed mode go,s deeper.It uses both discrimination and all metal together on xlt ac discrimination dc non discrimination mode.I do use it occasionally noisy but if you think your in a good area for deep coins missed i would go over the area in mixed mode,on xlt you will here both but the ac discrimination mode wont gos as deep as the dc so check the depth.Fiquer out how deep your discrination modes gos and if you are hitting atarget deeper than that i would dig a few.Dont know the qxt that well so dont know if it is same as xlt. copy from jb site
The merits of Mixed Mode Audio for deeper coin hunting...
Another Great post by Monte
If you feel you would like to find deeper coins than you do in the motion Discriminate mode, you can simply search in an All Metal mode. I'm sure you have also learned that you can gain better depth of detection in the motion Disc. mode by: using less discrimination, sweeping the coil a little faster, and sweeping directly over the coin target.
By operating in the All Metal mode, locking the toggle trigger forward, you will often get a little better depth of detection AND be able to sweep slower (if you haven't over cranked your SAT spped) which will allow you to cover a site more efficiently. Also, when in the All Metal mode you can often hear a target response if you sweep the coil very close to, but not necessarily directly over, it.
Turning Mixed Mode "ON" simply allows you to hear BOTH the Discriminate channel and the All Metal channel at the same time. When in Mixed Mode you might not necessarily hear quite as much or get quite the depth that you would if you were toggled into the All Metal mode, but you will get a good percentage of that depth of detection.
So, the beauty of searching with MM turned "ON" is that you can sweep the coil slower and it won't be as tiring. Additionally, you can hear targets that you sweep close to, but not directly over, hearing mostly the All Metal audio response. This alerts you to the fact that you have a nearby target and you can scan over it directly and get a Disc. mode response.
Some prefer to enhance some of the audio qualities in both modes of operation. For example, if you turn Tone ID "ON" then the Discriminate response from an accepted target will most generally be a higher pitched sound than what you would get from the All Metal signal. Should you elect to turn VCO Audio "ON", which functions with the All Metal channel, you'll get that unique VCO response AND the Tone ID Disc. response from targets, all at the same time, if searching in the Mixed Mode audio option.
The beauty of this, however, is that IF the target is a good conductor target, such as a silver dime or quarter, the Tone ID Discriminate signal response will over-ride the All Metal response and you'll hear a good Tone ID audio.
Should the target be a poor-conductive hunk of iron, such as a rusty nail or iron bolt, the All Metal mode's VCO audio response will prevail.
I can assure you that it does take a lot of time and patience to adapt to. Some people never do. Others, as I have read on this forum, spoke out rather negatively a year or two ago when I mentioned my used of Mixed Mode with my custom programs, yet they're now proudly announcing their use of it. I guess that just shows that some are slower learners, and/or operation in Mixed Mode audio does require a lot of field time and patience to get comfortable with.
If the XLT didn't have that feature, I might not have an XLT! You will do well to work with it in low-trash settings at first so the amount of "noise" will be minimal.
Happy Hunting, and have patience.
Monte
The merits of Mixed Mode Audio for deeper coin hunting...
Another Great post by Monte
If you feel you would like to find deeper coins than you do in the motion Discriminate mode, you can simply search in an All Metal mode. I'm sure you have also learned that you can gain better depth of detection in the motion Disc. mode by: using less discrimination, sweeping the coil a little faster, and sweeping directly over the coin target.
By operating in the All Metal mode, locking the toggle trigger forward, you will often get a little better depth of detection AND be able to sweep slower (if you haven't over cranked your SAT spped) which will allow you to cover a site more efficiently. Also, when in the All Metal mode you can often hear a target response if you sweep the coil very close to, but not necessarily directly over, it.
Turning Mixed Mode "ON" simply allows you to hear BOTH the Discriminate channel and the All Metal channel at the same time. When in Mixed Mode you might not necessarily hear quite as much or get quite the depth that you would if you were toggled into the All Metal mode, but you will get a good percentage of that depth of detection.
So, the beauty of searching with MM turned "ON" is that you can sweep the coil slower and it won't be as tiring. Additionally, you can hear targets that you sweep close to, but not directly over, hearing mostly the All Metal audio response. This alerts you to the fact that you have a nearby target and you can scan over it directly and get a Disc. mode response.
Some prefer to enhance some of the audio qualities in both modes of operation. For example, if you turn Tone ID "ON" then the Discriminate response from an accepted target will most generally be a higher pitched sound than what you would get from the All Metal signal. Should you elect to turn VCO Audio "ON", which functions with the All Metal channel, you'll get that unique VCO response AND the Tone ID Disc. response from targets, all at the same time, if searching in the Mixed Mode audio option.
The beauty of this, however, is that IF the target is a good conductor target, such as a silver dime or quarter, the Tone ID Discriminate signal response will over-ride the All Metal response and you'll hear a good Tone ID audio.
Should the target be a poor-conductive hunk of iron, such as a rusty nail or iron bolt, the All Metal mode's VCO audio response will prevail.
I can assure you that it does take a lot of time and patience to adapt to. Some people never do. Others, as I have read on this forum, spoke out rather negatively a year or two ago when I mentioned my used of Mixed Mode with my custom programs, yet they're now proudly announcing their use of it. I guess that just shows that some are slower learners, and/or operation in Mixed Mode audio does require a lot of field time and patience to get comfortable with.
If the XLT didn't have that feature, I might not have an XLT! You will do well to work with it in low-trash settings at first so the amount of "noise" will be minimal.
Happy Hunting, and have patience.
Monte
GoGoGopher
New member
Thanks again
I used mixed mode most of the time. It's the best way to hunt if you can get used to it. Every zone you want to hunt just turn it on and it high tones and everything else that goes under the coil low tones. I wears on you some in a very trashy area, but after you get used to it you know when trash is under the coil and to slow down and pick out the goodies. And now you can find those targets mixed in with the nails and such. I have found some of my oldest, and best things this way.