Ok Im going to check with Fisher, but wonder if you all could give me your input also. Recently my unit is excessively noisy, anywhere. The problem is a grunting, kind of iron like noise, that happens with every swing and also almost constantly on its own. I tried freq shift , lowering the sense, tightening the cable, different coil, fresh batteries etc. I did not do a factory reset, would that help? It didnt used to do this, I mean yes it was a little chatty right out of the box as we always discuss, but this was driving me crazy today, couldnt even hunt properly, and my buddy behind me was getting nice coins on turf I just hit. I had my F70 in the trunk and fired it up, wow what a relief.-much more stable and quiet and I could hunt. Later today 75ltd at a different site, same noisiness, but I figured out if I turn the disc on 0, the sound went away. If i raised the disc even past 3 or 4 all that noise was starting. So i kept it on 0 disc and notched out zinks, tabs, and foil. By the way when I notched out foil, iron notched along with it. I couldnt notch iron on my own. Earlier I even disconnected the coil and the unit was still very noisy, without a coil. so several questions, 1) Do or should or can machines make noise with no coil plugged in, 2) Is it ok to proceed the way i have it notched above?. Is that the same as using the discrimination? Or will I be loosing depth and other things. I mean it almost seems as if the disc was not working at all except to give me a headache. I know about the change at 9 or 10 in the disc or near there, and the discussions about that, I know about the foil, and gold rings etc So 3) has any one else had this problem or phenomenon? Is something up with the machine. Finally after all the rain lately getting some great weather , thanks for your input CO