Quick mask

[basstrackerman]

Well i just thought i share this as im sure most already know. ... Its happened to me several times. Using my etrac with 13" ultimate coil at an old school yard today. Got a good tone but numbers were 24-45/24-47 and numbers flashed in a few diff directions. But mostly stayed on the 24 line. I use open screen down to line 26 fe .. Now when i used quick mask to open screen all the way the numbers went straight to 35-47/35-49. And stayed there. Good tone though. I dug target and at 8" out come a wheaty and touching wheaty was a beautiful rusted bolt about 2" long and half inch thick. Once i opened quick mask numbers would not jump at all. Before that they jumped up to line 1 on down but stayed on 47 or so co number. Ive had this happen several times over the last few months. Just thought id share

 

[screw cap junky]

I never trust the numbers too many variables affect them. I always dig good sounding targets that repeat steady from any direction no matter what the numbers say and
I've seen wheatys rosys mercs you name it produce numbers I would not have dug just going on numbers alone.

 

[ironsight]

I liberated 4 old deep wheats today with the similar story. I was also using some iron discrimination today.

One thing with iffy targets is to gain any and all possible information by using all available eTRAC tools including, IDs, depth, tones, wiggle PP, 90 deg. sweeps, open Quick Mask (if sweeping with discrimination), etc. Then digest it all including gut feelings on whether to dig a deep iffy target.

However i gotta say, a few other digs today with similar iffy numbers produced small corroded iron nails.
Just never know til you dig.

 

[basstrackerman]

Yes i always hunt by sound. I just thought it was interesting how the numbers were iffy til you opened quick mask then all numbers were pulled straight to 100% iron.. But the tone was a good one. I have had this happen alot and is why i choose to disc iron on screen only. Still get the sweet sound a good target makes but get better numbers too. I did it in reverse for a while , running an open screen then having quick mask disc at line 27 down. Never found a target with open screen that the disc screen could not find. And i got better numbers 100% of the time with some disc. Etrac is so good at finding the goods in the iron. Even with the big 13" coil.. Dont know why i waited so long to buy an etrac lol

 

[BryanM362]

That is interesting. I had not noticed that myself.

Fo you guys that dig only by sound, can you estimate a percentage of how often the target ends up being good, even with iron numbers?

 

[basstrackerman]

For me about 50-60% of them time.

 

[Jeff in Pa]

Well said ironsight.

Use it all and then thru the past experiences you have seen in the past use that knowledge to decide to dig or if your gut says dig then by all means go for it!!

One thing I will say though if all of the Etracs info says its junk it most probably is!

I liberated 4 old deep wheats today with the similar story. I was also using some iron discrimination today.

One thing with iffy targets is to gain any and all possible information by using all available eTRAC tools including, IDs, depth, tones, wiggle PP, 90 deg. sweeps, open Quick Mask (if sweeping with discrimination), etc. Then digest it all including gut feelings on whether to dig a deep iffy target.

However i gotta say, a few other digs today with similar iffy numbers produced small corroded iron nails.
Just never know til you dig.

 

[Will1877]

See im still learning the quick mask thing. Let me ask you this bass you said tone was good the entire time correct? would you have dug this if tone was choppy? I think to often I get a chirp the co numbers are ok fe is all over switch to quick mask get tone but fe is in thirties or better I move on. More often then not tone was crap to start with. But in your for instance tone was decent? I think next time I encounter this I will switch into ferrous tones. I use conductive cause to me sounds better over my coins but iron is dead give away in ferrous.

 

[basstrackerman]

Choppy,,, maybe ... The tone was good .. Very similar to iron tone but slightly smoother and not quite as high..gut feeling told me to dig. I dig alot anyway lol. I have days the numbers are bad the tone is bad but i keep trying to force it to magically become a good target even though before i dig i know its rusty junk lol. I just cant force target to change before i dig it. Wheaties are for me the most common bad numbers good tone coin. And most of time it will be in hole with a nice big chunk of iron.