Questions about CS and depth indication/pinpoint

[allhuntedout]

While waiting for CS to arrive I'm reading the forum, the CS webpage and the manual. I understand it, and it all makes sense, amazingly enough. I always wanted a machine like the CS, with numerical IDs, and tried the White's Spectrum, but it never worked well for me. I've been using CZ's for a long time. So, we'll see if Fisher was able to make what I wanted.

It seems like the only feature lacking is a depth indicator (other than the pinpoint)? I think that will be challenging for me, as I rely on that as far as whether to dig or probe a target. I suppose the sound is similar the the CZ pinpoint, so I'd have to really learn to trust the sound. Even at that, the size of the target can affect the sound of the audio when trying to determine depth. I suppose too that's where having the numeric ID is a help, as you know what size or kind of target you might be looking for. Sounds like a lot of mathematics I'll have to do in my head! Unfortunately it's rare that I find an old site that doesn't have modern junk/targets on it. Interested in what others experience with this has been.

Also, is the pinpoint just like the CZ from a functional standpoint? I understand the digital readout gives you a higher number the more exactly you are over the target. Not sure I'm asking exactly what I want. Maybe I should say... how is the pinpoint different from a CZ other than the digital numeric readout?

Thanks in advance for your input.

 

[Bill Ladd]

I also was wondering about how depth was going to be handled on the C$ at first & if one had to memorize a bunch of numbers. But, honestly I think it's more accurate than CZ's now. You just have to keep in mind it's only true for "coin-sized objects" & a large axe head or something will throw it off or read +99 (shallow) even if it's 5" down. I say it's not alot of math because the best rule of thumb & basically the only thing you need to remember is that a +50 on pinpoint is about 5". (So, a 60= 4" 70=3" etc.) Anything in the 90's is either large or within an inch. The digital CZ meters are pretty good too & spelled out into inches but they go 2-4-6-8. The analog depth meter to me is just sorta small. With CZ's you can pinpoint by the sound increase, where on a C$ your really watching the screen for the highest digits.
The best way to succeed with the C$ is to completely forget your CZ & not try to compare the 2. The C$ is very different for Fisher & quite different engineering. It takes alotta practice & if you have an open mind you should do fine. Don't be afraid to ask questions here as well....
HH< Bill

 

[Bugar In. USA]

Shucks= I just figger if it's a big number, i don't have to dig as deep, little numbers ya gotta dig deeper, but for me , whatever it sez=I'm gonna dig er, deep or whatever

 

[Bill Ladd]

n/t

 

[allhuntedout]

One, not damaging targets with the probe... done that too much.

Two, only digging a plug when I have to. It's too hot and dry to be digging plugs here.

I'd rather have as much info as possible as far as depth and pinpoint so be able to decide if it's wise to cut a plug in regards to these two points.

Sounds like Bill answered my question, in that the # displayed represents the depth in a fashion. I thought it was only intensity of signal, and I guess it is, but the number does give relevant information as far as depth of coin size objects. That's the part that wasn't clear to me. The example of a 50 = 5" and 60 = 4" is perfect. I think that should work.

As far as digging a good signal, well, shucks... I'm ALWAYS gonna do that, but I'd rather do it the safest (to the target) and most responsible (not killing grass) way that I can.

 

[Bugar In. USA]

Here's what i did, i just laid different coins on the ground=a clear clean spot, and watched my readout while i raised the coil and lowered it, that way it gives you a pretty good idea what you are doing acording th the reading, usually 99 when you are right there on top of it, but lots of times do to heighth of the grass, or gravel it will be off, you just got to experiment a little, dosen't take long, 15-20 min and you got it figured out, Happy Hunting